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Are police allowed to (or more importantly, do they typically) search you if a drug sniffer dog acts like it smells something suspicious, in a situation where you otherwise were not previously suspected of carrying drugs and which the police officer was not previously looking for any?
- I'm not totally sure about the "allowed" part, but yes, they will search a person, vehicle etc if their drug-dog just happens to alert, if they want to. Someone I know got busted like that. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 14:08, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)fhFjsgfhJdgs
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[edit] Rescue dogs and Arabs
Is it true that rescue dogs walking on house ruins are frowned upon in Arab (or Islamic) countries because they think of dogs as an unholy beast? Or something like that. --Error 00:34, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Response: I don't know where you got that, but K9 dogs ARE USED in many places, for instance Saudi Arabia (that is the most Islamic and most Arab country in the world). Specifically in sensitive places such as Dhahran and oil plants (there are permanent K9's in front of gates searching for possible bombs in entering cars). However, other places may not use dogs not because they think they are "unholy beasts," but because they 1- can not afford it (or don't want to) and 2- they don't even have decent rescue teams, who's supposed to operate such dogs? Eagle 17:15, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
- Response: Dogs are indeed used, but have a negative symbolism in certain contexts. One of the many ways Western soldiers have ruffled feathers in Iraq has been to search houses with the help of dogs; to take a dog into someone's house is tantamount to urinating on their floor. --Vorpalbla 6/5/05
[edit] External links
OK, there are 2 external links now removed:
- Articles, case law, and other information, which has been there for a while, seems to have useful and informative articles on the business of police dogs, but is indeed the site for a consulting business specializing in police dogs
- History of Police Dogs and Military Dogs, which appears to document only the bad ways in which police and military dogs have ever been used to abuse other people and is quite one-sided.
Probably neither of those articles should be replaced in this article, but if anyone beyond the persons who own the aforementioned websites would like to offer and opinion, this would be the place to do it. Elf | Talk 02:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Actually, this Wikipedia article seems very one-sided at present; if there are any criticisms on the use of police dogs, it would be useful to include it. The second external article could be used as a reference if it contains factual material. ---Ransom (--208.25.0.2 19:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Dog training
Does anyone know if all police dogs receive the same training? Are bomb-sniffers and drug-sniffers the same dog?
- There are lots of different activities for "police dogs" and they all require different training. Your basic police dog--intimidate, attack, hold, alert, whatever, is one type of training. Drug sniffing, explosive sniffing, 'cadaver' sniffing, search & rescue...all require different approaches and different smells and require that the dog's handler keep up a regimen of practice of all the smells in the range of their training (e.g., different types of drugs, different types of explosives...). It's possible that someone could train their dog to do all types, but it would be a lot of training work and a lot of ongoing practice and so most dogs are used for one thing, not multiple. In addition, one usually wants drug-sniffing or explosive-sniffing dogs who don't intimidate the general public and who have excellent noses--so beagles are often used--but for search and rescue you might want a bigger dog who's more interested in working with people, for example. I don't know what percentage are cross-trained, if any. Elf | Talk 8 July 2005 06:10 (UTC)
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- Is it true that they go for the nads?--D-Boy 19:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bodyguard dog with sniffer?!?
The police dog entry includes this sentence "For some sniffer dogs in environments where it is perceived that a criminal may attempt to kill the dog to prevent detection, a bodyguard dog is assigned with the sniffer to intimidate and, if necessary, attack anyone who would attack the sniffer." This is intriguing but I have been unable to verify this use through an extensive net search. I called Sergeant Paul Dunnom of the St. Paul (MN) Police Department's K-9 Unit (named #1 department team in the U.S. in 1989-1991, 1995 and 1997--they know police dogs). Dunnom said he had never heard of deploying two dogs with one to search and one to protect the detection dog. I think this sentence should be cited, expanded or removed. It's a nice IDEA, but it doesn't seem to be used at all.
- Response: I agree. I have spoken to several ex-Customs and Excise officers who have never heard of this idea either. It seems counter-intuitive; it's not as though a sniffer dog is likely to be away from its owner for any length of time. spetswalshe 01/12/2006
- There seemed to be consensus, so I went ahead and dropped the sentence.
ManicParroT 03:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- I've come across this in a couple cases of fiction, but I've never heard of it used in the real world. For example, in Max Brooks' book World War Z, K9 teams were occasionally equipped with 3 dogs per handler, 1 being the mission dependant (for example, recon) which was usually a smaller dog, and 2 guard dogs. These guard dogs would protect the mission dependant from wild dogs, feral cats, etc. While this book was released a just a couple of months ago, I have certainly seen it before in other works of fiction. So perhaps this is where the idea stems from.
