Talk:Poleszuk
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Could anyone post some info on the assumption that the language of poleszuks (or 'tutejsi', as they are usually referred to in polish sources) is a dialect of Ukrainian? Halibutt 23:21, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Long thing short: AFAIK their language was (is) a dialect of Byelorussian. Can anyone confirm the ukrainian version? Halibutt 18:52, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I can confirm. I read an interesting discussion ín the Gazeta Wyborcza. A person member of the minority from Polish part of Polesie (Biala Podlaska), recalled his youth, when he was learning Belorussian as his mother tongue. He was surprised that his alleged mother tongue is so foreign to him. After some resarches, he found that his dialect was not Belorussian, but it was dialect of Ukrainian. Also, I saw in the Atlas of ethnicities of the Commonwealth, that the border betweenn Belorussian and Ukrainian dialects is more to the north then border between states. I would assume, that both informations are true, so they speak Ukrainian. If somebody proved otherwise, then we can change it. User:WolfgangPeters
[edit] Yatviag language
There was no confusion here. Read this: (PDF in Russian). The Yatviag language stuff is on the pages 80-82. The general Polesie stuff starts at the page 75. — Monedula 19:57, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I have a copy of "Zbudinnya". The term "Jatviazhska" is not used prominently there. There is no slightest relation of the real (extinct) Yotvingian language to the invention of undereducated good-meaning young men. And there is no reason to propagate this glitch into encyclopedia, notable only by its ignorance: Yotvingians didn't live in Polesie. Mikkalai 20:32, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- BTW, your reference contains a notable phrase: "hampers the usage of the <polisian> language by the majority of the population, with the possible exception of its creators", i.e., it was a non-notable experiment very loosely related to real life, if at all. Mikkalai 20:43, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
