Talk:Poker probability (Omaha)
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[edit] Alignment?
At least for me, the tables in 2.3.1 overlap with the text. Does this occur for anyone else? (I'm running Firefox 2 on Ubuntu, 1920x1200 screen resolution). Neilc 07:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, on looking closer, it seems the text overlapping with the tables has abated, but I think the table layout could do with some improvement in any case: the text winds its way through the tables, which are enormous, which makes it fairly hard to read. I can post screenshots of how the page renders on my machine if it looks fine elsewhere, but it definitely looks a bit off here. Neilc 07:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
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- The text is not supposed to wind through the tables, and does not on IE 6.0 running on XP. There are <div>'s that allow (or at least are supposed to allow) the three related tables for the flop, turn and river to either layout as
F R T
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F T R
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- The text should not be displayed side-by-side with the tables but rather be normally aligned between each group of three tables. A screen shot would be useful to see what you are getting in Firefox. When it lays out correctly using the first layout above, the size of the tables is a little more manageable. —Doug Bell talk•contrib 08:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Note that while the layout problem persists on certain browsers (Safari on the Mac being another one), the tables in question have been moved to Poker probability (Omaha)/Derivations for making rank-based hands. Any assistance with fixing the layout on these other browsers would be appreciated. —Doug Bell talk 07:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Royal Flush Probabilities?
there seems to be something wrong with the odds calculated here. Eg it says that the odds of a RF by the river is 59.11 : 1 and a straight flush 10:1. On a single hand? The odds of a RF in omaha is about 10000:1 according to http://www.math.sfu.ca/~faculty/alspach/art8.pdf . This agrees roughly with my experience having one RF in two years and 4 straight flushes. Am I reading this wrong? Baggier 11:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- It is giving the probabilities that a royal flush is the best possible hand on the river. That requires only 3 cards not 5
160.36.86.138 06:24, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Note that per the discussion at Talk:Poker probability#Royal flush as a separate hand, I combined the probabilities for royal flush and straight flush. —Doug Bell talk 02:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article size
The article size has been increased to 103 KB. Please follow the guidelines for MoS. See Wikipedia:Article size for more. You may consider summarizing it. Thank you, Shyam (T/C) 14:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I previously moved some of the tables out of the article into Poker probability (Omaha)/Derivations for making low hands and Poker probability (Omaha)/Derivations for making rank-based hands after the article topped 300K. Regarding the length of the article, as WP:SIZE discusses, it is the readable prose length of the article that determines when the article is too long. The size of the text in these articles is primarily due to the tables, math markup, and table mark up. The readable prose portion of the articles does not exceed the recommendations in WP:SIZE.
- Also, I summarized one of the tables in the main article and put the complete table into Poker probability (Omaha)/Making low nuts, although since I also added the complement of that table to the main article, the size only reduced from 129K to 122K. Also, the 304K subpage Poker probability (Omaha)/Derivations for making low hands is for reference purposes mostly. It's only going to be interesting to a small subset of the people interested in the main article. I could break it up into individual pages for each section, but that would really work against the usefulness of the page.
- If you're experiencing long load times, this has somewhat to do with the large number of formulas on the pages as much as with the size of the page (perhaps more so, actually). This is because the TeX formulae are rendered as PNG files, so each formula is a small image download. Not much to do about that, and removing the formulas would reduce the usefulness of the pages considerably. The only section I could also move to a subpage without breaking the continuity of the main article would be the derivations for the nut boards, but this would only reduce the size by 11K, so I'm inclined to leave it in the main article. —Doug Bell talk 02:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sub article up for deletion
Someone should have mentioned this here! Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poker probability (Omaha)/Derivations for making low hands. -- Kendrick7talk 22:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
