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Contents 1 Merge 2 Image 3 WTF @ release dates 4 United States link 5 Link-Up Capabilites 6 Version-specific Pokémon 7 Box Art 8 Japanese Blue and Green versions... 9 Subliminal Messages 10 Were glitches fixed, or not? 11 Possible merge idea 12 ROM Hacking Section 13 External Link 14 Release Date 15 mergeing .4 with article 16 Proposed Merge. 16.1 Voting 17 Designer

[edit] Merge

I say merge the articles! They are the same game! I put the template there!--XD375 21:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I think it is a bad idea. --Philip1992 16:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

A terrible one, I agree. There's already been so much information loss from the previous merges, there'd be nothing left! ~ Flameviper 22:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

There's been too much merging already. Like for the glitches, everyone hears about them, but they don't know anything else. When each glitch had its own page, they would tell you how and why they worked. Merging eliminates valuable info. ~Frank

I'm going to use the words of my grandpa on this one. No. Hell, no? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.11.33.144 (talk • contribs) .

Which articles? Green and Red/Blue? I'd support the merging of those, as they're similar enough. EllipsesBent 23:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course. Why not merge them? If you feel some information would be lost, then it won't be removed. We don't have individual articles for Red and Blue, why for Green? Makes no sense. DanPMK 17:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's a need.(shawny_1234567 07:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC))

Its another game and it got extra's wich Pokemon Red and Blue Doesn't got. And the Release Date too is other.

(Dennis 13:59, 5 Februari(ECT))

[edit] Image

The image of Red's box is uncouth at best. Somebody should upload a better version. -WindFish

[edit] WTF @ release dates

Red and Blue were not released in 2005. I know they must have been released in 1996 or so; can someone verify what month and day? Hbdragon88 03:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Red and Green were released in Japan on February 27, 1996 and in the United States on September 28, 1998 under the name of "Red and Blue" instead of "Red and Green". -- Daverocks 23:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] United States link

Why is the link to the United States in this article red as if it is broken? It is spelt correctly, and it just takes you to the editing page for the US. Seems like a bug in the MediaWiki software or something similar. -- Daverocks 23:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, seems to be fine now. Weird. -- Daverocks 13:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link-Up Capabilites

I reorganised the different sections on trading into one 'Link-Up Capabilities' section...And mentioned the Colosseum battling function via the link cable as well. I felt that this would bring a less scattered feel to this section of the article: I hope I was correct. Barnabat 10:36, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Version-specific Pokémon

I've recently added a new section listing the version-specific Pokémon. I'm not sure if it should be a new section, or if it should be a subsection of Gameplay or Link-Up Capabilities. I'd appreciate it if someone could suggest where it should go. Plume 02:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Box Art

I removed one of the box art images, it looks silly having both in the info box. Gerard Foley 10:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why that's needed though - both games are quite notable in their regard and by the game name should still be there. --Anthony Jake La (Tetsuya-san; talk : contribs) 10:16, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese Blue and Green versions...

I suggest merging the Green page with this one, as the Green version is the japanese counterpart of the english blue version. Also, further information on the japanese Blue would be welcome :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.251.215.174 (talk • contribs) .

I came here to suggest that, but it seems you already have. I'll try to put the template on if I can.--XD375 16:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

They are completely different games, in Japan, Blue was a special edition. Highway ^{Return to Oz...} 10:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subliminal Messages

It says here that it was banned in Saudi Arabia, but I see nothing bout this....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_computer_games —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.181.118.123 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Were glitches fixed, or not?

Various glitches were fixed, and the graphics were redone. These graphics would be used in the English release of Red and Blue, however the glitches and mechanics found in Red and Green were not fixed or changed.

Umm, were any glitches fixed? Personally I haven't played the original Red/Green to know. 202.7.202.2 08:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

This is one of the reasons a merge would be nice. Then we could have a better glitch comparison.--XD375 00:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I know of 1 glitch that was fixed. In Japanese R/G, you could hit SELECT on the 7th item in your bag, then get into a battle, and hit select on a move. Once you won the battle, your POKEMON would hit LV100. Sabre Knight 13:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible merge idea

It's obvious we only need one article for Green, Red, and Blue, both Japanese and American. So, perhaps all the articles could be merged into something like First generation Pokémon video games or some other name anyone can think of. Even if the name doesn't change, definately merge Green with this one. DanPMK 11:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I really don't know how it got turned down...it's the exact same thing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.32.87.146 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] ROM Hacking Section

I think it would be a good idea to put a ROM hacking section on this page, since Pokemon hacking seems to be very popular. Would that be ok if I added it? Koolboyman 22:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It might fit better over at Pokémon (video games) as a subsection of the bootlegs section. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 23:27, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Link

I just readded the link to "IGN Guide to Pokémon: Blue and Red" (<http://guides.ign.com/guides/16708/>). It had been deleted by Ryulong, because he said the external links looked like spam. This Web site is not spam. It has a complete listing of Pokemon in the Pokedex, techniques, types of Pokemon, items, TMs and HMs, and so on. I think it's a useful, quality link and should stay in the article. If there are any comments on this, leave them here. I had asked Ryulong about his reasoning, but he failed to respond.

Chris Dubey 21:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Release Date

All the sources I found put the game's US release in September 1998 but the article says it was on the 30^th, Daverocks above says it was the 28^th and Nintendo puts it at the 1^st... Which is it? --Sonic Mew 23:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mergeing .4 with article

.4 includes the same information that Pokemon Red and Blue have in the glitches section--Balloonguy 23:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• It doesnt exist anymore? O_o Ash link 23:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

it was subject to deletion and got deleted --Balloonguy 21:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Merge.

Please use this space to discuss the proposal to merge the articles Pokémon Red and Blue and Pokémon Green. I suggest this merge for the following reasons:

• Although technically different versions, the games themselves are near identical in everything but name. They are simply regional variations.
• The article for Pokémon Green article contains little worthy of note that is not already included in the Red/Blue articles - the content is a near copy. Any version specific information is short and can easily be part of the main article.
• Pokémon Red and Blue has been assessed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and Video Games to be an article of Top importance, one of only 38 in this project, due to the fact it started a multi-billion franchise. However, Pokémon Green is intrinsically linked with the initiation of this series, but should instead be listed with Red/Blue.
• From what I understand, previous merge requests have simply resulted in the template being deleted with no proper discussion. The time is now right for a proper vote to be proposed.

Please do not delete the template until this discussion is concluded.
--Mouse Nightshirt 17:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voting

• Support — For above reasons. Mouse Nightshirt 17:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  
• Support — For above reasons, and that one R/B/G article would avoid ambiguity that we'd have with anything other than one article for Pokemon Red, one for Pokemon Blue, and one each for the three as Pocket Monsters Red/Blue/Green. EllipsesBent 21:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Support — Why do we even have separate articles? It isn't a Gold/Silver-Crystal relationship, it's a Gold-Silver relationship. Red, Blue, and Green are minor tweaks of the same core game. Yellow has some very minor plot differences, and could possibly be a good candidate to merge here, too. This would get us a fast-track article to WP 1.0, and then it could go to GA and later FA review. «TTV»(talk|contribs|email) 04:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose To be honest I think all 3 games should have their own article because they're different. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Johnathan Love (talk • contribs) 07:16, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Support Problem is, they areally aren't. They're almost identical. DanPMK 09:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• Support the merge but mention that JP Red/Green had slightly different sprites. --Libertyernie2 18:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
• Support if I remember right, they came out at almost exactly the same time. Cheers to 2007! User:Sp3000 10:32, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Actually, Red and Green first came out in Japan with a lot of glitches and crappy sprites. Blue came out afterwards, with better sprites and all the glitches fixed. Then Yellow came out, based on the anime.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Support - For the above reasons, as long as the differences between the games are mentioned.Ultraflame 23:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Support, but oppose merge with Yellow version. bibliomaniac15 02:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Designer

The designer of the game is said to be Ken Sugimori in the article, but I think this would be Satoshi Tajiri. Sugimori was the lead designer of the characters and monsters, but the overal concept of the game was created by Tajiri. See the credits. - Face 13:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)