Talk:Plymouth Rock

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I feel that the picture caption doesn't do the story of Plymouth Rock justice. While many people are probably disappointed with the Plymouth Rock as a landmark I don't believe this should outweigh the fact that this was the proported landing place of the Pilgrims....a group of people who could be said to have had a profound impact on the development of American law, culture, history and identity. 69.174.212.154 07:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)Tom Johnson

The rock itself is disappointing, but it's more disappointing that there is zero chance that this rock was the site of first footfall on this continent by pilgrims, and that everyone knows this, yet the place is promoted, deceptively, as if the story were true. - Nunh-huh 09:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand the disappointment with its size; Plymouth Rock is not famous for being large, it's famous because we like to pretend it's where the Mayflower landed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.22.214.130 (talk • contribs) .

That part does need some work, it's all based on a single sound bite from a single source. The decent references I've found about disappointment really refer to pre-1920 incarnations of the monument. I just looked at it a couple weeks ago with this article in mind, and it really doesn't seem that small or remote either, access is actually pretty good. I should take a camera over there some time and get a picture with people in it for scale. --iMeowbot~Meow 03:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Criticisms"

The "Criticisms" part of this article isn't apropos: it's not about criticisms of Plymouth Rock at all; it's just about how difficult it is to get to Plymouth from Boston, which is of no interest. There are criticisms of Plymouth Rock—it's uninteresting to look at; you can't get close to it; and it's probable that it has no real historic significance. Shouldn't the "Criticisms" section of the article be about those? AJD 16:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. You're right - I hadn't noticed that. I've removed it. Here it is for reference:

• * * Criticisms * * *

Many tourists visiting New England find Plymouth "out of the way" as it is located in Southeastern Massachusetts, about a 45 minute drive from Boston. However, it is a primary location for those wishing to travel between Cape Cod and Boston. For those traveling without a car, the MBTA runs very few trains to Plymouth and many find local public transportation to be poor. The local bus transportation system - GATRA - runs from the train station to the downtown area.

Thanks! --AStanhope 16:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)