Talk:Plan 9 from Outer Space

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This page should be deleted, it appears someone cut and pasted the synopsis from Run Away, from the planet Zebra onto this page. I do not believe this film actually exists.

  • Yes, it does. I've seen it twice. Google it if you don't believe me. Ground Zero 18:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Plan 9 definetely exists, I've seen it, too. But I've never heard of that Zebra movie, and there is no trace of it on IMDB (or Google), either. Perhaps Zebra should be deleted, looks like vandalism to me... Its IMDB link points to Plan 9's info page, and it's not clear whether Fred M. Wilcox or Ed Wood is its director. --Azazell0 22:23, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Ha-ha, very funny guy... I suggest deleting the Zebra page. --Azazell0 22:26, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Plan 9 not only exists but they're selling product space in the movie on eBay. Also it looks like Mike Nelson from MST3K will be doing another voice over of it.

Yep. Here's the info: [1]
Special features include audio commentary by Mike Nelson, Ed Wood's Home Movies, Deleted Scenes (!!), The Lost Plans 1-8, Rare Comercials, and the Original Theatrical Trailer in COLOR. I'm looking forward to this release for Mike's commentary ALONE. I haven't seen the film myself, but if it's as bad as they say it is, then Mike's commentary should be a real treat. (Ibaranoff24 04:13, 8 October 2005 (UTC))


Under "goofs and mistakes", I removed:

A door that presumably leads to the outside of the flying saucer opens in the opposite direction to the outer door
of the saucer.

It can be infered from the movie that the spaceship has both an inner and an outer door, with some sort of room between them (the aliens mention this and there are 2 knobs which control the doors). Therefore, I feel that there is no evidence to credit it as a goof.

Some employee of Legend Films (I'm guessing) added a whole slew of advertising into the article. I just made a quick cut, leaving in the stuff that was still relevant. Apparently that IP has been making all sorts of self-promoting edits in articles relating to film colorization. --Kerohazel 13:03, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone have confirmation on the Baptism story? Sounds implausible enough to be true for such a horrible movie... CharonX 22:51, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Tor Johnson

I deleted the phrase about Johnson being "billed as The Super Swedish Angel" because it makes it seem as if this film credits him by this nickname rather than his real name. (Ibaranoff24 17:29, 15 February 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Welcome POV

I glad to see that POV is allowed somewhere on the Wikipedia! N0va1is.

Welcome to being a dick.
  • You claim POV problems, yet you do not state what you feel is wrong with the article's POV. Please elaborate further. (Ibaranoff24 22:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Public domain or copyright?

I was wondering if this movie along with Ed Wood's Glen or Glenda are consider public domain. I came across this from an old Slashdot discussion, the popular nerd discussion website, saying it was in "public domain." [2] However, when I click on Archive.org's link to view it. I came across this message: "The item is not available due to issues with the item's content." Does anyone have any references that say the last copyright holder of those two Ed Wood movies released those them to public domain, besides Archive.org use to put them on their website? It has to be reputable sources, besides just an amauter webisites listing it as public domain. Here is a recent discussion about some users of Archive.org are questioning why that movie was taken away: [3]. I know there was a DVD release of the movie, but that's about it. --4.253.34.184 00:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Glen or Glenda?, Jail Bait, and Plan 9 from Outer Space are in the public domain because their copyrights were not renewed. (Ibaranoff24 02:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC))
    • There is a reason why Archive.org got rid of the movies. Their copyrights were renewed in 1986.Slashdot poster Rotten Tomatoes "Released as part of the Wade Williams Collection (copyright renewed 1986). Filmed in Hollywood, California." --4.253.39.214 03:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
      • It seems the copyright holders of those Ed Wood films will not be in public domain until 2053, according to this Slashdot poster that got his/her reference from the United States Government office. The United States Copyright Search Engine "are unavailable 5:00 p.m. Saturday to 12:00 noon Sunday (U.S. eastern time)." [4] I will confirm the Slashdot poster. Again, you didn't provide references. That's how urban legends and misinformation are spread throughout the internet. You just can't assume people say its "public domain." --4.253.39.214 03:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
      • I also want to mention that Rotten Tomatoes mentioning of "Wade Williams" is slowly making sense. The copyright holder, which in this case Wade Williams, probably did renewed in 1986 without even needing to wait tomorrow for the U.S. Copyright search engines to be reopened. He was even mentioned in one of Wikipedia's Ed Wood-related articles as the last known copyright holder of Plan 9 from Outer Space. Williams was also mention on this website for a review of a 2000 DVD release of Ed Wood films as the copyright holder of four Ed Wood films. [5] The final nail in the coffin will be the U.S. Copyright search engines. --4.253.39.214 04:00, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • These films have been released by several distributors (my DVD copy of Jail Bait/Glen or Glenda is a double feature from Catcom Entertainment, a publisher dealing exclusively in public domain films), and Plan 9, for instance, was released independently in a colorized version by Legend Films, who specialize in the release of restored versions of public domain films (about 75% of Legend's output includes films that are currently in the public domain). These films are public domain. (Ibaranoff24 06:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC))
    • Okay, we need more input from several people. I'm still sticking with my thinking that it is still copyrighted. I searched the U.S. Copyright database. Yes, a claimant called: "Wade H. Williams III (PWH)"' renewed a title called: " Plan nine from outer space a/k/a Grave robbers from outer space. By aReynolds Pictures, Inc." on "6Jan86."
      • 1. Registration Number: RE-278-774
Title: Plan nine from outer space. By aReynolds Pictures, Inc.
Claimant: Wade H. Williams III (PWH)
Effective Registration Date: 6Jan86
Original Registration Date: 3Apr58;
Original Registration Number: PA 112-906.
Original Class: L
      • 2. Registration Number: RE-279-707
Title: Plan nine from outer space. By aReynolds Pictures, Inc.
Additional Title: Grave robbers from outer space.
Claimant: Wade H. Williams III (PWH)
Effective Registration Date: 6Jan86
Original Registration Date: 1May58;
Original Registration Number: PA 102-338.
Original Class: L
This contradicts your statement: "public domain because their copyrights were not renewed." It was renewed on January 6, 1986. The U.S. Copyright Office website doesn't use static URL addresses for searches. To prove my point, just copy/paste the Registration Number on the search field and select "Registration Number" option. [6] In addition, you said Legend Films' includes "about 75% of Legend's output includes films that are currently in the public domain." Wouldn't this title (along with Ed Wood's titles) consider part of the minority? Again, I'm not an expert on Ed Wood just find this kind of suspicious and odd that there is absoutely no reliable source saying it is public domain and Archive.org quietly removed the title from public access. --4.253.33.127 21:18, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • In response to your question: NO. Plan 9 is public domain. The few copyrighted titles that Legend Films has colorized are the Shirley Temple titles, and some films that Ray Harryhausen worked on. All of the films in their cult film series (which Plan 9 is a part of) are films that are in the public domain, including Reefer Madness, Night of the Living Dead, and The Little Shop of Horrors. (Ibaranoff24 07:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC))


[edit] Mistake in Mistake

After watching the opening sequence, it is clear that Criswell says 'and what happens on that fateful day,' not 'and what happened on that fateful day.' This shows that he is implying it has yet to happen, rather then some sort of goof.

  • Wrong. I just checked my copy of the film, and the audio and closed captions make it extremely clear that he says 'what happened on that fateful day,' not 'what happens.' I'm reinstating the info. (Ibaranoff24 12:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC))
I don't think there's necessarily a contradiction. He says "future events such as these," but he never actually says that the movie depicts an actual future event, just that there will be events in the future like it. CrossEyed7 18:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Mistakes

  • It may be worth adding the following mistakes: In the scene where the blinding light knocks everyone over in the graveyard, the two guys carrying the stretcher are clearly seen to stop and heave the body off the stretcher before falling to the ground. This obviously wasn't intended to be caught on camera. Also, in one scene where the Lugosi fill-in is walking in the graveyard, his shadow is clearly seen on the studio wall. Fleagle11 15:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from adding more content to these sections. It's all original research (no one has yet cited anything) and cruft. The article is LONG. ALTON .ıl 00:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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