User talk:Pious7/Cyber Nations

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This page was a created through a calibration of a few CN members (I just polished a few rough edges so to say, nothing too big), and I hope that many other members of the CN community will follow suit and help maintain this CN page. I also hope to see this page to stay on here, without the risk of deletion. Master Thief-117 04:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion this page should stay because it has been a while since someone made a page on it. Since then, a CN alliance caused a real life international incident and CN has been on the front page of a very popular website. CN is also more popular than some sites that have Wikipedia pages, though that argument technically doesn't count. Pious7 04:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not involved with CN, and have never played it. However I feel that this article is now notable now (as Pious7 states above) Also we do have a article on Nationstates, and CN is just as notable as NS Brian | (Talk) 04:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I actually brought that point up in the IRC with one of the admins (at least I think he was one). I was also told that as long at the page followed the guidelines as per WP:WEB, it can stay. Based on empirical evidence, this page DOES follow those guidelines. I will even go through them, and check them off:

  • The content itself has been the subject of multiple and non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself.
  • Trivial coverage, such as (1) newspaper articles that simply report the internet address, (2) newspaper articles that simply report the times at which such content is updated or made available, (3) a brief summary of the nature of the content or the publication of internet addresses and site or (4) content descriptions in internet directories or online stores.
    • It has brought up controversy, which is linked here.
  • The content is distributed via a medium which is both well known and independent of the creators, either through an online newspaper or magazine, an online publisher, or an online broadcaster.

I can go on, oh wait, lets look at Nation States, another online game. It contains no real press coverage, other than the bogus in-game incidents, which are a part of the game itself. Almost all the sources point to the game itself, or its official forum, and one of the "sources" points to its own wiki. If the game Nation States can get away with more Wikipedia blasphemy than Cyber Nations, then you know what, I have lost all faith in Wikipedia. Master Thief-117 07:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure we'll survive, somehow, without you. As for Nation States, you are advised to read this, and if you don't think Nation States qualifies for Wikipedia, go here. Meantime:
Take it up at WP:DRV if you think you have a case. --Calton | Talk 15:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

So a game with 30,000 users isn't worth recognising?.. Yeah, right. You know this site ranks 6896 on Alexa? Whereas NationStates is ranked at 28,567. - TiMBuS

Hay Calton. Can you be more specific as to what you said? What is going to WP:AFD do? I literally could not find any relevance to that and the fact that Nation States does not follow the guidelines for a proper Wiki page. You know, another thing, looking here, you can clearly see that the site Cybernations.net is dominating in daily page views, which shows that the game is more popular that Nation States. Master Thief-117 17:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

It is a complete lie that this is a repost of deleted material, which is what you stated on my talk page. I completely rewrote all but two small paragraphs from the old article to make it updated and more to Wikipedia's standards. Since August, CN has become immensely popular and noted. Repost of deleted material? No. Making a new article on something that deserves it? Yes. Pious7 17:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How Can I Help?

I'm Teak II of Okarito on Cybernations and I was wondering how I could help other than having it on my watchlist? Teak the Kiwi 13:46, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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