Talk:Pineapple Express

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Washington State is being hit with a Pineapple Express right now.

Several, in succession, in fact....at least up here in BC.Skookum1 07:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pineapple Express and marine history

My understanding of the origin of the term is that it was because wet winds coming to the PacNW from Hawaii also made the trip from Hawaii to the region a lot shorter as navigation could be done in more or less a straight line; the pineapples came express delivery, in other words (old pictures of street markets in Vancouver and Seattle feature scads of fresh pineapple, bananas and other fruit...extremely rare in other parts of the country/countries east of the Rockies. Also I made an edit note that I think the meanings may be slightly different, and with the latest series of systems - which appear to be coming from due west, rather than southwest as I usually associate with a Pineapple Express (aka a Chinook up here); and they aren't necessarily as warm as they usually are. At least a few of the recent storms have been tail-ends of typhoons that hit the Phillippines; normally Expresses come from the direction of Hawaii (I thought, anyway). But I'll get around to quizzing one of the weather guys here (Mark Madryga, who's actually a real metereologist as well as a TV personality) and see what he says about the terminology; myself I think the term has become trendy and isn't as specific as it was in former times, or in the days when the practicalities of sailing ships really made it an "express" run from Maui and Oahu; the current systems are coming, on the other hand, more or less from the direction of Japan. Those from Hawaii cause the drying Chinook on the Prairies/Plains; I'm not sure what's going on in Calgary right now but if these are real Expresses, they should be having a Chinook right now....Skookum1 07:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orwellian History

I think this is not a low importance term but is high - because it is used in the news so often and is still very vague in this article.

I think this term is used frequently in recent years - possibly due to the higher incidence of extreme weather events from global warming. A few years ago I had never heard of this. Now in vancouver it seems like any heavy rain is called this. I want to know is this thing real? Is this a coverup of global climate change? what is a typical historical frequency of this event and is the currect incidence deviating or is it my imagination? Unfortunately I have no idea about weather enough to find out how to answer these things. Hopefully someone else out there does and is interested in updating this. Now that Global Warming is a popular topic maybe someone will see the signifigance of more enlightenment for this concept. More enlightenment that ties in and includes a broader historical and political context.