Talk:Piledriver (professional wrestling)

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[edit] Face first vertebreaker?

Someone added "face first vertebreaker". However, I've never heard of such a thing, and it didn't say who has used it. The description didn't sound like a type of piledriver, either—more like a kind of facebuster. Gwalla | Talk 02:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dangerous moves

A recent edit added a claim that the piledriver is one of the most dangerous moves in wrestling. While I'd never claim that a piledriver is particularly safe, and there have been some injuries, I'm not sure that piledrivers are in general significantly more dangerous than any other slam to an experienced wrestler. Some piledrivers are certainly risky (the vertebreaker gives the recipient no opportunity to brace for impact or tuck his head), but even Paul Heyman can take a tombstone. Gwalla | Talk 28 June 2005 20:07 (UTC)

[edit] Sunset Driver

Couldn't find it anywhere else on here, and thought this would be the best place for it considering the description at the top of the page. Feel free to move it/ point me to where it is already. 212.159.78.3 00:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I've never seen the move performed so I can't be sure, but judging by the section it's been put in (Back to Belly Piledrivers), should it not say that the opponent is held in a back to belly position, rather then belly to back? --Kiltman67 02:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I moved it there from the description i understood it to be like a normal Back to belly piledriver with the back of the attacker having belly of the opponent pushed up against it.. though i havent seen the move used so i cant say that my understanding of the description is correct. --- Paulley 13:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Now i read it through again i see you are right that part was in the wrong way round i didnt notice that bit before --- Paulley 13:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Tombstone" piledriver

The term "tombstone piledriver" goes back to the mid-1970's, at least--well before Mark Callaway ever started wrestling. You can hear Japanese announcers use that name when the move is used by Billy Robinson and the Dynamite Kid. Several issues of the Observer from the mid-to-late '80s use the term as well. PeteF3 22:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

ok i have changed the discription to show that. --- Paulley

[edit] Banned piledriver??

Is there a grandfather clause for wrestlers like the Undertaker so they can use their piledriver? --Soopafred 21:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes - the WWE allows wrestlers who they feel are experienced enough (i.e. The Undertaker) to still perform piledrivers. FireCrotchRIO 18:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)