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The cathedral of St. Stephens does not exist in Meaux. The cathedral there is called St. Etienne. Which Stephane is meant? --Roomsixhu from de.wikipdia.org

Good point. It was added by this anonymous editor [1] -- it wasn't in my source when I wrote the article. I'll look to see if it is St. Etienne. Antandrus (talk) 23:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I would be greatful. Do You know something about the other names like Descaudain, Jean le Brung and Andreas de Silva? I translated from the netherland version and there are these dead links. Finally what means "vv" in Works? Vocal Voices? I just did not know how to translate it in german. Do you know Heinrich Fabers compendium and introductio?-- Room 608 (A Horace Silver piece) from de.wikipdia.org —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.187.49.118 (talk) 01:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Descaudain/Descaudin appears to be a very minor composer; I cannot find any information in the online Grove, other than that sometimes things are attributed to him. Jean le Brung has a short article there and should probably get a writeup--he was a bass singer at Louis XII's court in France, and he left some magnificats and motets. Birth/death unknown, but flourished 1498-1515. Andreas de Silva is another composer I haven't written the biography for yet... born 1475-1480, wrote masses, many motets, and Fors seulement. Possibly Spanish, and may have been the papal secretary around 1520. Thank you for pointing these out! I'm looking for articles I've missed. "vv" means "voices (more than one)". So "4vv" is "four voices." It's a little silly I know, since "4v" would mean the same thing. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 01:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I´m just reading.

Finally could You illustrate me the meaning (sorry german grammar) " smooth polyphony with exactly equal voices". Are the voices really equal? Or do they move only in the same direction like it is suggested by "smooth polyphonie"? --Roomsixhu —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.187.49.118 (talk) 01:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Your English is better than my German, LOL. Voices equal in that none predominate: none sing in longer notes than others (as in a cantus-firmus style); they have equal "weight", like the four voices in (some) fugues. Moulu's style was similar to Josquin's; indeed some attribution problems have arisen because of it. Antandrus (talk) 01:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Great, I just got a glimpse of it. I will look up the terms here, "weight" ressembles "Gewicht" and I recall it in that context. Thank you very much. I just wondered how much you can know about a music theoretican of the Renaissance. Our article Faber is a bit longer. Greeting --Roomsixhu —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.187.49.118 (talk) 01:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

I will correct this too. One question remains: Does Your reference show, that St. Stephan und St Etienne are identical Saints or somehow related or did the citizens of Meaux rename the cathedral? It Seems strange a talk about identity of Saints.;-) Roomsixhu

Hello again! Can you read French? I translated this page on the cathedral [2] from the French wiki last night. St Etienne and Saint Stephen are the same; Saint Stephen was the first Christian martyr (Stephanus in de:) Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 19:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I further found this: Ville de Saint-Étienne, en France ; gentilé : Stéphanois. Finally its a matter of etymolgy and language, quite difficult. And I corrected my links to the first martyr. I have no more questions at the moment. But I learned about interestic topics: renaissance music, saints and wunderful cathedrales. Cheers! -- de:Benutzer:Roomsixhu Very late here 4.00 a.m. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.187.46.22 (talk) 02:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC).