Talk:Physical exercise
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What does "muscle-sparing" mean? It's neither linked or explained in the text.
[edit] Cleanup
The article still begins with the dissambiguation of the word Exercise, there should be a different page ("Exercise (dissambiguation)" ) for this purpose. The article should begin with the definition of physical exercise. Also, this dissambiguation section appears to have some redundancies JunCTionS 13:52, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Carbohydrates and muscle mass
Exercise uses up a muscle cell's glycogen reserves. Carbohydrates allow muscle cells to refuel. Without enough carbohydrates in your diet, you will lose muscle mass from exercising. According to this essay, it is ideal to exercise 1.5 to 2 hours after a meal, and to have a meal sometime after exercise to refuel your muscle cells. Chira 19:22, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] No Pain, No Gain?
is this part really necessary? i know when i train it hurts, i know it doesnt hurt as in injury - but its pain nevertheless, i personally think the statement is too subjective and doesnt fit within the article.
- I agree, lactic acid creates a "burning" effect and just lifting a heavy weight creates a feeling that could be described as pain. "No pain, no gain" could also be thought of just referring to the exhaustion that one feels after exercise. --Slux 16:58, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I removed that section, i moved the part about DOMS to the intro section. feel free to voice opinions. --weightshead
[edit] Training Effect
I created an article on Training Effect, linked it to two existing articles (Dr. Kenneth H. Cooper and Cooper test), and put a link to it here under see also. The article is in a "stub" state and it is probably premature to expand it into text in this article. Simesa 19:29, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Exercise Hypertension
This phenomenon should be noted somewhere. It is apparently well-known that a significant number of otherwise-healthy people (but often having mild hypertension) get spiking of their systolic to high values (250mm or so ) during moderately vigorous exercise (100W typical). Excessive diastolic rises are also often seen. There is some recent Johns Hopkins work, and other earlier stuff (eg D Kraus 1989 in Drugs, IIRC - Management of Hypertension in Actively Exercising Patients). Linuxlad 12:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- I had added a link to this page and put up a request (under Medicine) for an article. If we don't get a response in a few days, I'll write an article myself. Simesa 14:08, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that after writing here. I was tempted myself, but I feel one shouldn't write an article in a medical area unless a 'SQEP' (a term you might recognise?) Bob
- I was a System Qualified Reviewer for nuclear, but I think someone can wrte a stub here if they have great references - my experience is that if enough links are posted shortly a fully-qualified editor will come along. Simesa 18:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Exercise Benefits - Vigorous v moderate exercise
There appear to be conflicting results on whether vigorous exercise is any better (or worse) for you than moderate exercise, (at least as far as overall health is concerned). I've written this (non) result in, but the boundaries between low, moderate and vigorous (which I've quoted here as 40% and 70% of VO2max) are from memory. Could someone check, please!
[edit] Why does the opening paragraph read ike a disambiguation page?
The opening paragraph might need to be reworked per Wikipedia:Lead section Dalf | Talk 04:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hrm... you have a point there, the article is generally about physical exercise. Before making any changes, I think we should find any possible wikis for the other ambiguous 'exercise' terms to link to them at the top, as some articles do have a mini-disambiguation statement linking to other articles without sacrificing the whole page to disambiguation. --Tyciol 05:03, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- If one of the topics covered is the main thrust of the article you can create Exercise (disambiguation) and move the disambiguation tasks there. This might involve splitting some sections out form here. Alternately I have seen a number of articles where the topics can all be covered in a relatively short space (Which is what this article looks like it is doing). In that case simply reworking the intro so that it is in paragraph format and not a list and ties them all together briefly addressing each one, should suffice. Personally I think if you decide to go that way eventually someone will suggest that the article be split. I can imaging an article on physical exercise demanding a full length article all on its own. There have been enough books written on it anyway. You might also consider making this page a disambiguation page and moving the bulk of the article to Physical exercise (which incidently currently redirect here). Dalf | Talk 05:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- That's a great idea, if there's already a page up. I guess maybe give it some time and fix this article up for the move? That way anyone with this on their watch list can voice any objections. Otherwise say... Feb 1, make the move? All those who say nay are assumed to say I! Oh... *fixes a little unnecessary text* --Tyciol 05:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not sure how to best execute moves to articles that already exist (even if they are a redirect to the current article). If you want to save the history and talk page hitory you have to get an admin to do it. There is a page for requesting moves. I will poke around and if no one objects I will put the request in, in a day or so. We should wrtie up exactly what we want to do here and add the {{moveto|PAGENAME}} or relavent split templates on this talk page to get peoples attention. Dalf | Talk 07:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, a complicated issue, but at least we're not looking at a merge :p Imagine what hell that would be to undertake. I think this would be a positive step though. Once moved, we can either use exercise as a redirect to physical exercise, or link to it as a disambiguation that uses other definitions of exercise. For exmaple umm... well, in schooling an activity can often be called an exercise, in one's skills rather than necessarily physical, and to exercise one's rights... I bet Wiktionary could help :p --Tyciol 09:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not sure how to best execute moves to articles that already exist (even if they are a redirect to the current article). If you want to save the history and talk page hitory you have to get an admin to do it. There is a page for requesting moves. I will poke around and if no one objects I will put the request in, in a day or so. We should wrtie up exactly what we want to do here and add the {{moveto|PAGENAME}} or relavent split templates on this talk page to get peoples attention. Dalf | Talk 07:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- That's a great idea, if there's already a page up. I guess maybe give it some time and fix this article up for the move? That way anyone with this on their watch list can voice any objections. Otherwise say... Feb 1, make the move? All those who say nay are assumed to say I! Oh... *fixes a little unnecessary text* --Tyciol 05:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- If one of the topics covered is the main thrust of the article you can create Exercise (disambiguation) and move the disambiguation tasks there. This might involve splitting some sections out form here. Alternately I have seen a number of articles where the topics can all be covered in a relatively short space (Which is what this article looks like it is doing). In that case simply reworking the intro so that it is in paragraph format and not a list and ties them all together briefly addressing each one, should suffice. Personally I think if you decide to go that way eventually someone will suggest that the article be split. I can imaging an article on physical exercise demanding a full length article all on its own. There have been enough books written on it anyway. You might also consider making this page a disambiguation page and moving the bulk of the article to Physical exercise (which incidently currently redirect here). Dalf | Talk 05:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vote to move to Physical exercise
- Please vote if you think this article, Exercise, should be moved to Physical exercise:
- Agree. This article is about physical exercise. Afterward, this article should be changed to a redirect with a disambiguation page header. Andrewjuren 02:39, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. This is all about physical exercise. I second that it should be a disambiguation exercise, linking to the new physical exercise page, as well as things such as academic exercises, skill-training exercises, relaxation exercises, and so on. Tyciol 06:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- Agree. makes sense. Dhodges 13:59, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] FALSE!
Do we need the FALSE! it's established that the article is despelling myths. Having FALSE before each one is unencyclopedic and reads more like an infomercial script
Agreed. Andrewjuren 01:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Picture and Pushups: resolution
This is just going back and forth and turning into an edit war. I will never agree that the central figure is doing a proper pushup, it's a bad example for one. If we continue to keep this picture, I will have to revert it. To resolve it though, perhaps we could replace it with a different picture of pushups, or perhaps a different physical exercise altogether. This is a very silly issue to continue wasting our time over, especially with an upcoming move to physical exercise being imminent. No, they did NOT have to perform a proper pushup to reach an improper pushup position, it doesn't even make sense. I could get into that position by doing a cobra from yoga and straightening up a little, but it wouldn't be proper like the marine on the left's pushup is. Tyciol 06:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. There has been too much wasted effort on this debate. We could easily use the soldier image found here on the right instead and be done with it. There are some serious problems with this article that would warrant some significant re-write (unless, of course, it is merged, in which case much of the junk content can be disposed.) See Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles --Andrewjuren 18:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah I haven't really looked at revising the article as a whole, I lack the courage for major rewrites, I just evaluate the ones other people do :p By the way... what's he holding in his hand? Tyciol 06:47, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How is exercised connected with quality of life?
How is exercised connected with quality of life? Been looking for the info for quite sometime and find nothing (im a bad researcher, I know)... If anyone knows anything about how exercise links with the quality of life please leave on my talk page User talk:Chaos Reaver... --217.129.205.214 20:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC) (AKA Chaos Reaver)
- I added a reference to improvement in brain function as people age. PSlave 20:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Physician Consultation
'Despite a common belief that only overweight people need a physical before beginning an exercise program, apparently healthy people can still have unknown medical conditions, such as a heart murmur, that can cause severe injury or death' I really don't like how this sentence is worded. It indicates that a heart murmur is always a serious condition when in fact it is very minor. I have had a murmur all my life and I run marathons, compete in triathlons and play football regularly. How about: 'Despite a common belief that only overweight people need a physical before beginning an exercise program, apparently healthy people can still have unknown medical conditions, such as a heart murmur, that in some cases may cause injury or death'? Robruss24 07:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copywrite
Under the section of Myths: Both "Spot Reduction" and "Muscle and fat tissue" sounds similar to that written in Physiology of Fitness by Brian J Sharkey (3rd ed).
I have the 2nd ed at home and will check with that. In the mean time, if anyone else could check I would recommend doing so.
(I am speaking from memory at the moment).
Dan
[edit] Redirected
Copied from Fitness training
- For the past few hundred years, there has always been at least some form of fitness training. In the beginning of the olympics, olympians would train solely for olympic competition throughout the entire year. As methods and principles have inevitably changed, there is no doubt that the desire for both physical performance and vanity have not.
- SynergeticMaggot 03:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] functional training(linked in text of 10/24/06 version of this article)
Does anyone else find functional training a bit spammy?Rich 19:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Why aren't we using the simpler title?
If Exercise is going to redirect here anyway, I see absolutely no value in not simply naming this article Exercise. We can include a dab notice at the top either way. -Silence 06:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Good point, I changed the redirect to a disambiguation page for PE and E(f). WLU 12:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
