User talk:Phonemonkey
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[edit] Chongryon / Zainichi Koreans
Ah, good to hear... I was afraid it wouldn't make it into the intended article, hehe ^_^ Rōnin 15:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The evidence
The evidence is here. UNITED STATES OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION Psychological Warfare Team Attached to U.S. Army Forces India-Burma Theater APO 689 (Date of Report: October 1, 1944)[1]. And read citations and note agein. Tropicaljet 10:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- This is the evidence for not Japanese women's high paid in article comfort women. Please read it. In this report an average month a girl(not Japanese) would gross about fifteen hundred yen. This is about 7500000yen (or $60000) in converted monetary value of today. This is already written in note. Tropicaljet 14:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Comfort women
This one seems impossible do something about. The dear professor keeps on canvassing the article on his blog, and he keeps on suggesting Asahi, BBC, NYT are just poorly researched. It's down to "westerners lie", isn't it. As long as he keeps on like that, there is no solution, is there? I'm not even gonna try anymore, but I do sincerely wish you the best of luck. Mackan 09:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- I bet you probably know this, but the term 従軍慰安婦 is not only used by Asahi, as the good professor suggests. It's also used by Mainichi as well as Yomiuri (do a quick search on 慰安婦 on either newspaper's homepage if you need links). The only newspaper which seems to actually avoid the term is Sankei. I myself have decided to refrain from taking part in the discussion, but it's my hope you will not bend to the Japanese users wish. Mackan 18:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't guessed you were Japanese, actually. But it makes me happy to hear. Yes, I agree the revisionist claims too should be given an appropriate amount of space in the article, but it has to be carefully balanced. Largest problem was how Ikeda et al would remove all claims which weren't revisionist. He ought to have a look at WP:TRUTH... Mackan 23:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- And btw, any help on the yakiniku article (actually my "point of entrance" into this entire conflict) would be much appreciated. ShinjukuXYZ has made his mind up on what the article should look like and he/she won't take no for answer. Thank you. Mackan 23:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Oh god, I know about ShinjukuXYZ and yakiniku (please see talk:Japanese cuisine. It's difficult to deal with an editor who refuses to engage in a debate but I've tried to come to a compromise with the help of User:Endroit. Funny how we both got sucked in through exactly the same food related article!Phonemonkey 08:44, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- And btw, any help on the yakiniku article (actually my "point of entrance" into this entire conflict) would be much appreciated. ShinjukuXYZ has made his mind up on what the article should look like and he/she won't take no for answer. Thank you. Mackan 23:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't guessed you were Japanese, actually. But it makes me happy to hear. Yes, I agree the revisionist claims too should be given an appropriate amount of space in the article, but it has to be carefully balanced. Largest problem was how Ikeda et al would remove all claims which weren't revisionist. He ought to have a look at WP:TRUTH... Mackan 23:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Refactor of your "Summary of debates so far" comments
I hope you don't mind but I've taken the liberty of refactoring your excellent "Summary of debates so far" section on the Comfort women article Talk page. I didn't change any of the content, I just broke it apart into sub-sections so we could all reply in a more organized fashion. If this isn't okay, please feel free to revert or undo my edits!
And your comments seem to be very good and a pretty accurate summary of the discussion. Thanks! --ElKevbo 20:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks and no of course I don't mind, it's a good idea!Phonemonkey 00:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stop parsonal attack
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
Ikeda is every inch a authority of this affair. I think you should hold him in esteem some more, and should not do personal attack. Tropicaljet 04:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Tropicaljet, please cease the bad faith accusations of personal attacks. Please read up on WP:NPA.Mackan 19:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Calling someone who encourages meatpuppetry "someone who encourages meatpuppetry" isn't personal attack. Asking someone who publically declared that he has no intention of keeping to Wikipedia rules, the reasons why he thinks he is above the rules, isn't personal attack. Pointing out to someone who rants and raves about illiteracy and ignorance of other editors while posting personal blogs as his source that he is not helping himself isn't personal attack. If he wants others to hold him in esteem then perhaps he ought to start behaving like a grown-up. Thank you. Phonemonkey 12:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 2channel
[2] The Joji Obara article has also been canvassed on 2channel (apparently there's a whole series of threads called "朝鮮人のWikipedia（ｳｨｷﾍﾟﾃﾞｨｱ）捏造に対抗せよ", so I bet they've probably canvassed just about EVERY article which has something to do with Korea/Japan). Especially this comment was interesting:
"Joji Obara に別の朝鮮人が参戦。
うざすぎる
Phonemonkeyとかゆうこのチョン、Comfort Women 編集しまくってる履歴あり。"
I guess we're both Koreans(!). Keep up the good work. Mackan 18:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ha ha! Thanks for that. Good old 2channelers...as predictable as lab rats.Phonemonkey 19:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
