User talk:Philhellenism

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[edit] Macedonia and related issues

Regarding the article you've created which is up for deletion, you might want to read WP:NPOV before you add more to it. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, the object of the exercise is to present all views on Macedonia and Macedonians, rather than simply rubbishing those which don't make sense to you. There is already an article on the Republic of Macedonia which covers a fair bit of this controversy, so perhaps you might want to focus your energies there. BigHaz 06:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HI THERE

Feel free to delete this.

I do eventually want to create articles, but being my first time I was only having a dabble around. In future text (such as this article) will be written in the discussion pages.

[edit] Warning and explanation

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
Two points to bear in mind when editing that (or any other) page:

  • Do not under any circumstances change the link on an AfD template. They are there to enable any and all users who wish to take part in the discussion about the page to find their way to it. Changing the link makes this process very difficult indeed and is considered to be vandalism, about which we take a very dim view here.
  • The fact that the page is or is not original work has very little to do with whether or not it should be here in the first place. Putting up a message saying that it isn't original work is not going to result in getting it kept, as the discussion deals with whether or not the encyclopedia needs a collection of quotations on an issue which are already present elsewhere.

As I said earlier, there are other articles on Macedonia and also on Greece which you are most welcome to edit. If you want to explain at the AfD debate why you think this particular article needs to be kept, you're also most welcome to do that. What you are not welcome to do is vandalise links. If you want to discuss this with me further, you can leave a message on my Talk Page. BigHaz 06:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HI THERE#2

You can delete the page. Is was doing a test run on how to create articles.

[edit] Attention BigHaz

How do I remove this page?

Regards, Philhellenism

If you want to leave messages for other users, your best bet is to leave them on their Talk page. To take me as an example, click on my username and then click the tab marked "Discussion" to reach my Talk page. Then click either "Edit This Page" or the plus-sign and leave whatever comments/questions you want. After you save the page, it'll come up as a message when I'm next on the site, so I'll be able to read it and respond to it faster. BigHaz 10:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Philhellenism: That page is currently up for deletion and will be gone in five days at the most, but likely a lot sooner since you've approved its deletion. You can monitor the progress here. If you want to play around with Wikipedia, you can use the sandbox. If you want to create a userpage for yourself, you can use this page to do so. Happy editing! Czj 06:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia sandbox

Hi...noticed in the AfD on "We are slavs...." that you said you were dabbling around a bit. I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the sandbox here. That's a good place to try out things if you want to experiment with Wikipedia. Of course, if you're writing an article, you might want to work on drafts some other way (since other users use the Sandbox and blank stuff out there regularly), but it's a good place to try out things if you're not sure how they work. Cheers! -- H·G (words/works) 06:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] THANK YOU

Thank you all for your input :)

[edit] User page / Text of your article

I was just thinking, in case you'd like to move the text of your soon-to-be-deleted article to your user page, here's a direct paste of what you had on the article that is being deleted... you can copy the following over to your user page if you desire to:


Risto Stefov claims that the People who live in the landlocked country of the Former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), are the decedents of Alexander the Great. However Slavs settled in the Balkans in the sixth century AD, where as Alexander the Great rained from the fourth century BC, and spoke a form of Ancient Greece (Hellenic), yet the people living in the current "Geographic Macedonia" speak Slavic.

How can a Slavic speaking people be decedents of an Ancient Hellenic speaking people? If the current residents of FYROM (who 26% are Albanian), speak a language so close to Bulgarian (which is similar to Croatian, Serbian etc), does that make the rest of the Balkans decedents of Alexander the Great?


1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiro_Gligorov. The first President of FYROM said that "..... we are Slavs" This quote can also be found in the Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35.

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek-Italian_War#Aftermath. This makes reference to Winston Churchills famous quote "Hence we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks".

3) http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm. Under Fact#1 point C, the following quote is sited - On 22 January 1999, Ambassador of the FYROM to USA, Ljubica Achevska gave a speech on the present situation in the Balkans. In answering questions at the end of her speech Mrs. Acevshka said: "We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great … Greece is Macedonia’s second largest trading partner, and its number one investor. Instead of opting for war, we have chosen the mediation of the United Nations, with talks on the ambassadorial level under Mr. Vance and Mr. Nemitz." In reply to another question about the ethnic origin of the people of FYROM, Ambassador Achevska stated that "we are Slavs and we speak a Slav language.”


The above is perfectly permissable content to have on your user page, but doesn't qualify as encyclopedic. Just wanted to paste it to you so you didn't lose it. Again, your user page is accessible here.

Also, one last note: on talk pages (like this, and the Articles for Deletion page), you can sign your name/date by simply appending four tildes (~) to the end of your remarks. Czj 07:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to Czj

Thank you!! Philhellenism 07:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A bit more about the sandbox

The concept of the main Wikipedia sandbox is confusing sometimes, and it's not always the best way to experiment with creating pages, since other people are constantly editing it, too. If you want to experiment with creating pages, you can create them as subpages to your userpage instead. For instance, going to User:Philhellenism/sandbox will provide you with a blank page that you can play around with and save without actually adding articles to the main namespace. Nobody else will edit it, since it's your page, and when you have perfected the article (and if you are sure it conforms to article standards), you can copy and paste it into the page where you want it.

For example, I used "User:Kafziel/sandbox" to create a list of episodes of the series "Thief". That way I had plenty of time to experiment and make changes to the page before actually submitting it as an article. Once I had it how I wanted it, I copied the code and pasted it at List of Thief episodes. You can do the same thing with any article you want to experiment with, and that will avoid having them nominated for deletion by other editors.

Hope this information is helpful to you. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Happy editing! Kafziel 16:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Philhellen!

You may want to check out relative pages to your obvious (from above) interest:

There are also many other articles connected with these (blue links), but I think that's a good start to grasp the issue. Feel free to message me anytime for whatever. Είσαι κι εσύ Έλληνας? (mouse-over these words if you don't understand them!) •NikoSilver• 10:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Βεβαίως!

Τί θέλεις να φτιάξεις ακριβώς? Η σελίδα σου είναι καλή προς το παρόν. Για οτιδήποτε χρειαστείς (και εκτός χρηστοσελίδας) μη διστάσεις να επικοινωνήσεις. Χρήσιμα τίπς ακολουθούν:

  • Πρόσεχε μην ξεχνάς να υπογράφεις τα σχόλιά σου με τέσσερεις κατσαρές παύλες (~~~~).
  • Φτιάξε τις προτιμήσεις σου (my preferences - πάνω δεξιά) ώστε να κάνεις watch κάθε άρθρο που κάνεις edit. Αυτό σημαίνει ότι θα το βλέπεις αν αλλάζει στο watchlist σου.
  • Προσπάθησε γενικά να είσαι ήπιων τόνων και να μελετήσεις τους κανόνες του Welcome note που βάζω πάνω-πάνω σε αυτή τη σελίδα (καλά, είναι δυνατόν? δε σε καλωσόρισε κανείς και σε πήραν αμέσως από τα μούτρα?)

Αυτά και καλές συνεισφορές τω ενχειρίματι! NikoSilver 10:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Hey Philhellenism

I centered the entire userpage per your request. Feel free to get whichever part of code from my userpage. Thanks for trying with your Greek! Don't hesitate to ask for help in anything you might be interested. I'll be glad to help! NikoSilver 10:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Χρόνια Πολλά κι ευτυχισμένα! NikoSilver 16:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Userpage images

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[edit] Nea Potidea

I created a Nea Potidea article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nea_Potidea Could you please take a look at it and edit it? and Could you also put it into catagories? Also can you tag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potidaea as the main article? Thanks! Neptunekh 07:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Erotisi

Sti selida hristi su anaferese ston eafto su ston plithyntiko (afti i hristes...), yati?--Domitius 23:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Yati then iha alo horo. To koti the yinodane megalo Φilhellenism 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Orea. Se rotaga epidi o kanonismos den epitrepi perissotera apo ena atomo na hrisimopiun ton idio logariasmo. Ke prin xehaso, kalosorises :) --Domitius 00:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pyrros Dimas

There is no dispute about Pyrros Dimas' origin. So, it's needless to post a question about it in his article. Sthenel 23:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The article has him down as "Albanian" with "Greek decent". Which is incorrect. I also added "Northern Epirus" in the article", and the point that was being made was posed in the form of a question Φilhellenism 00:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

It's clear in the article that he is Greek but he was born in Albania. We cannot replace the country of birth with a region which can be percepted as claim on this country or anything.. There is no problem with his origin, but his birthplace belongs to Albania now. Sthenel 00:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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