Talk:Philosophy of education
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Help with the absences in this article would be much appreciated, particularly with Aristotle and Locke, on both of whom I am weak.--kaleideion
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[edit] Hannah Arendt
Hannah Arendt largely avoided education as a subject, but she did so for reasons which are very interesting to educational philosophy. Her thoughts on the subject are recorded in one of the essays collected in Between Past and Future, entitled, "The Crisis in Education." In this essay, Arendt proceeds to argue that any attempt to create democracy through educational methods was a form of tyranny... (Continuation pending)
I have read Arendt essay in german, but that any attempt to create democracy through educational methods was a form of tyranny is nit from her! Look at my german article about that: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Krise_in_der_Erziehung --Ot 12:08, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Horribly sorry, but I don't know any German. Could you summarize the pertinent points in English? -- कुक्कुरोवाच|Talk‽ 18:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry, my english is not good enough to translate it. However, I think that Arendt only make some notes about education - and this notes are about the education system of the USA. For example, she said, that it is not possible to educate (erziehen in german [its hard to get a good english word for that] adults, but it is possible to teach (lehren) adults.--Ot 10:04, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Democracy
This is a good start to an article; it obviously needs some filling out. I think I know what you are aiming at, but I have serious concerns about claiming the mainstream of educational philosophy to be a democratic tradition. Plato advocated a republic, which is very different from a democracy. Rousseau said about democracy, "Were there a people of gods, their government would be democratic. So perfect a government is not for men," and gave equal voice to democracy, aristocracy and monarchy in his political philosophy. And so on. Democracy is not the word for what they are all seeking. Free individualities? I'm not sure...
I'm also not sure that an article that must preserve a neutral point of view can realistically take one stream as the preferred one. On the other hand, a purely chronological list is probably not ideal, either. I would like to see a differentiation based upon something more viable in the Wikipedia setting.
I deleted a whole paragraph of the introduction (sorry); perhaps some of this is still salvageable. Here it is if someone wishes to revise it and reincorporate it.
There are certain key voices in philosophy of education, who have contributed in large part to our basic understandings of what education is and can be, and who have also provided powerful critical perspectives revealing the problems in education as it has been practiced in various historical circumstances. There is one particular strand in educational philosophy that stands out as of extreme importance in the present time, which may be identified as the "Democratic Tradition", because it is a product of philosophers who, seeking to establish or preserve democracy, turn to education as a method of choice.
[edit] how is philosophy related to education?
Philosophy treats of all subjects. There is a philosophy of history, a philosophy of science and a philosophy of education! Hgilbert 00:51, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Source
What is the source on this ??Improvcaptain
- Do you mean on anything in particular, or on the whole article itself? Cormaggio @ 01:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Who came up with the philosophy itself Improvcaptain
[edit] Plato
This section is horribly anachronistic and misleading. Plato probably did NOT advocate the educational reforms mouthed by Socrates in the Republic, the City-State formulated therein is likely more thought-experiment than prescription for a actual society. I won't fix the article, because it is exactly this sort of thing that makes me think Wikipedia is hopeless.
