Talk:Peter Sotos
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This guy's crimes may go a little beyond simple possession. --DanielCD 18:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- DanielCD, I'll read up on this fellow, after I finish reading about Graham Rix. Could you look at the debate on talk of Graham Rix. It needs more editor comment. Sotos could go either way. Probably would use category label since it is interesting encyclopedic information that might be missed without the category. Need to read more to be sure. --FloNight 19:46, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- I couldn't find Sotos listed in any Sex Offender Database, nor could I find any source which labels him a "sex offender" (other than Wikipedia). In cases like this, I think Wikipedia should err on the side of caution. Falsely labeling someone a sex offender could have serious ramifications. Kaldari 22:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think I agree with that. The policy says "do no harm" with on-the-edge cases. And the man is still living (I assume). There's not really enough info here to make a call the other way (IMHO). Would he fit in the Child Porn cat? That would be saying he's related to the topic...or am I wrong?
- I couldn't find Sotos listed in any Sex Offender Database, nor could I find any source which labels him a "sex offender" (other than Wikipedia). In cases like this, I think Wikipedia should err on the side of caution. Falsely labeling someone a sex offender could have serious ramifications. Kaldari 22:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Am I interpreting the policy right here: Even if someone is convicted, if the conviction is not the principal thing they are known for, it's not necessary to list it (and would this even apply here)? --DanielCD 02:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think the conviction is relevant, in so far as the conviction relates a lot to his work, and the articleoi makes clear that he is not a paedophile. Indeed, in his aterword in Ian Brady's book "The Gates of Janus" makes clear his revoltion of child abuse, in an unequivocal and emotive way.
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[edit] Buyer's Market
I wanted to ask why "Buyer's Market" isn't included on this page. It's an album released by Sotos, I think it was in 1996 and it consists of soundbytes from court trials, talk shows (you can hear Geraldo and Oprah on some of the tracks), media coverage etc.
It wasn't Whitehouse, it was a Sotos project. It has five tracks
01) "Children" (people and children talking about getting molested/raped.murdered) 17:52 02) "McMartin" (kids, parents, the McMartins, people involved commenting on the case) 9:03 03) "Trash" (more people talking/testifying about being raped, family members being murdered) 11:24 04) "Bundy" (family members of the victims and other people (including Bundy's mother) talking about Bundy and the murders) 10:04 05) "Victims" (in the same vein as "Trash") 13:23
I downloaded this off Soulseek and have only been able to find a few references to it online. One note of "intrest" is that Sotos supposedly claimed that he would masturbate while listening to this record. Again, all I really have is the album in mp3 form and a few hits on Google, so could someone who knows more about this Buyer's Market add it to the article?
[edit] In his defense.
-The only crime sotos has ever comitted as far as we are concerned is owning child pornography at one point in time. There is absolutley nothing illegal about his writing.
- Labeling him as sexual offender based soley on his writing is slanderous and ignorant.
-Even if he was a sexual offender there would be nothing illegal about him writing books.
It is both hilarious and terrifying that the first thing people do upon coming across his work, is go to the sexual offenders data base.