Talk:Peter Mark Andrew Phillips
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Should this be moved to Peter Phillips? ugen64 23:19, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
- I guess the middle names were for disambiguation purposes... ugen64 23:19, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
"Peter is the first grandson of a British monarch not to hold a title." – What is meant by title here? What about, for example, The Honourable Gerald Lascelles? I have never thought "The Honourable" to be a title. Semantics, of course, but the sentence had me confused. -- Jao 17:36, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Technically, you're right. "The Honourable" is an honorific prefix, not a title, but most people don't know that. TysK 22:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I have reomved Peter is the first grandson of a British monarch not to hold a title. as it is not true because he is a female line descendent and is therefore not entitled to one. Although as a courtesy his grandmother offered to create him a Prince, however his mother did not want this. Mac Domhnaill 21:39, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Referring to Mac Domhnaill's comment, absolutely he is entitled to a title. His mother chose not to exercise this right for either of her children. Ben Furnival 21:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Ben Furnival is right: His mother decided that they would not have a title. The fact that he is descended from a female line has nothing to do with it. Eventer
The fact that he is descended from a female line has everything to do with why he isn't "entitled" to a title, if you mean "entitled" in the sense of having one simply because of birth. Except in rare situations (women who are peers in their own right), you can only inherit a title through your father, even if your mother is a princess. He is only "entitled" to a title in the sense that nothing would prevent him from holding one if the Queen wanted to give him one. But his not a "right" that his mother could "exercise"; as a child with a father who holds no title whatsoever he has absolutely no "right" to hold a title.It's completely an issue of semantics. TysK 22:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Neutrality
Surely the neutrality of this article is disputed? 84.67.153.31
- Am with agreement with the above, this does not seem NPOV but not bring an expert on the person in question I don't feel I have the wherewithall to edit it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]). - actual this person is 81.131.80.62
[edit] The lack of title
"Peter is the first grandson of a British monarch not to hold a title." Absolutely he is entitled to a title. His mother chose not to exercise this right for either of her children.
It seems a bit suspicious to call him the Queen's favorite grandson, considering the bond she has with William, who will in all likelihood one day succeed to the throne.
[edit] Tabloidy / People-magazine-like
The general tone needs work. It sounds much more like a People magazine article than an encyclopedia. There are any number of books on the Royal Family that could be used to check facts.rich 16:57, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Place in the order of precedence
Does Mr Phillips have any place in the United Kingdom order of precedence by right of being a grandson (even though female-line) of The Queen? 62.25.106.209 13:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
