Talk:Peter Hume
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a city councillor. Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:21, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) -- seemingly from same stable as the schools above. Bob Chiarelli, Clive Doucet and Doug Thompson. Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:27, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) -- oh sorry, not Bob, he's the mayor. The others, though. Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:29, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, Delete except for the mayor, and get rid of the category too. It's not strictly necessary considering there are only 4 listings. Saint will 19:31, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, could we stop putting all these pages ive made on vfd please? it's getting on my nerves. Politicians ARE encyclopedic! Wikipedia is not paper, and all that jazz. keep Earl Andrew 19:35, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, city councilors for a major city are encyclopedic. See also: New York councilors, Toronto City Council. What is the justification for deleting factual and verifiable articles such as these? They do not meet any of the conditions of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, they in now way tarnish the reputation or respectability of the encyclopedia, and they are not advertisements or propaganda. What is rational for expelling articles such as these from the encyclopedia? Some people on VfD are wholly forgetting the basic rationale for why the deletion process was created. - SimonP 20:11, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
- but most of those are red links, and those that have articles are notable for reasons in addition to and usually above just being a councillor. Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:39, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- SimonP is absolutely right. Keep. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 20:38, 2004 Sep 3 (UTC)
- Keep. Bah! Raving looney deletionists. zoney ▓ ▒ talk 01:04, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Delete all but mayor. Also, folks, aren't they counselors or council members? Councillers? Those who have an effect on the greater level are notable. If some of these council members are leading the nation in some way, making proposals that get in the news...if they are such that someone outside of the local paper readers will say, "Hmmm, heard that name before...I want to learn the bio in an encyclopedia," then I don't think they are notable enough, no. Deletion rules say that we delete the non-notable, but "notability" is something that can be debated. I have my own criteria, and I do try to stick to them to at least be consistent, and neither a "deletionist" nor a "it's not paper" person, but rather someone trying to vote according to the guidelines. Geogre 02:20, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Ambi 04:10, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Ottawa is a major city the capital of Canada and thousands of people voted for city councillors. Capitalistroadster 07:05, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. The usage, btw, is councillor, at least around here. Lacrimosus 09:02, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Roughly how many votes does a councillor need to be elected? If there's only a few for the whole city, then they're sufficiently notable from this to be listed in their own right. If theres a couple of hundred, they're not. Average Earthman 22:14, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Ottawa has twenty-one city councillors each representing about 30,000 people. - SimonP 18:12, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Then I'd say any that have other sources of note, or serve more than one term of office, probably qualify for an article. Keep. Average Earthman 19:16, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Ottawa has twenty-one city councillors each representing about 30,000 people. - SimonP 18:12, Sep 5, 2004 (UTC)
- Regardless of how unimportant one may feel Ottawa City Councillors to be, Clive Doucet is also a legitimately notable Canadian writer, and should not be deleted under any circumstances. My vote is keep Doucet and Chiarelli, but I abstain on the other two due to not really caring (*grin*) Bearcat 18:48, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep.--Dittaeva 16:33, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Not important to you, but to a reader in Ottawa, indefinetly. -- user:zanimum
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