Talk:Persian (cat)

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Lifespan of these cats would be nice....

Contents 1 Couronne Persian 2 T cup? 2.1 Orieal Persian 3 Origins 4 Main photo - Let's discuss and reach consensus!

[edit] Couronne Persian

I don't think this is an actual breed of Persian, but more of a cruel result of breeding. Couronne seemed to be a cat breeder, but the website couronne.net does not exist anymore, and the image seemed to used to be linked to the site. A google search seemed to indicate a number of breeds of persians with mixed results. Can anybody shine some light on this? --Nomegustan

I don't think the question is whether it is a cruel example or not. It has no encyclopedic value, but it is 100% advertisement. a Couronne persian is not a special type of a persian cat but it is a persian of a specific breeder, pure advertisement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.154.98.67 (talk • contribs).

[edit] T cup?

I saw an article recently about T cup persian cats. I can't find any info on these. Anyone have any idea? I know T cups are smaller than normal cats but...persians are already small. How big are these things.

[edit] Orieal Persian

I think this image is horrible and the size is bigger than the necessary, the older one was much better. And the first lines of the text has been cut by the image. Do not to replace pictures already in the article with a picture of their favorite pet. --Daniel Leite

[edit] Origins

The text of the article says: "...reputed to be from Persia (Iran)..."

Why reputed? It's a fact. The Persian cat is ubiquitous in Iran and can be seen digging garbage cans for food in city alleys and streets there everywhere. Theyre indigenous.

In Iran, the "Persian cat" is called "Gorbeh Yazdi" (since non-Persian regular breeds also exist).

My mother had one once when she was little in Shiraz. He was named "Montesquieu" by my grandpa. My grandma however threw the Cat out back into the streets because he would pee on the Persian rugs of the house.

I became friends with one myself when I was a kid in Isfahan once. I called her "khaleh fery". She was a full size beauty. And she ate one of my Turkey chicks we were raising in our backyard. But she gave birth to two lovely kittens. I tried raising them, but they had to eventually go back to the alley because my mom would not tolerate the fur balls and hair on the rugs in the house (oh history). When I moved to America, I had to leave them both to tend for themselves. One kitten got run over by a car, and the other was killed by mad kids in the street, I was told later on.

So it's not "reputed". The govt of Iran even printed a series of stamps comemmorating the types of Iranian cats.[1]. The "Persian Cat" is seen below left.--Zereshk 08:31, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main photo - Let's discuss and reach consensus!

I changed the main photo, choosing the most professional quality image from the gallery choices. If this bothers anyone, please post here so that we can come to a consensus. --NightSky 15:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

There seems to be a disagreement regarding the primary photo used in this article. As a vet, I find the characteristics of the black smoke persian more illustrative of the breed. Let's try to go beyond voting for a pet and reach consensus in the best interest of the article. So far we have two editors who have given their reasons for electing the black persian photo. (I have no knowledge of either cat or owner under discussion, btw. Would ask that other editors declare a [COI|WP:COI] if it exists.) --VeggieVet 13:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. My reasoning was the quality of the photo and the fact that the other photo depicts an unbrushed/disheveled looking cat (who is quite sweet to be sure!). While it's true these cats are hard to keep groomed, the main photo should be of a show quality cat. Other opinions are welcomed here! --NightSky 18:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange isn't it that ENPCC created that account on 3/21 and just uploaded the disputed persian picture (but has done nothing else). Then after that, NightSky, who had not been active before, on that same day decided to become active and changed the picture. Suddenly, when faced with the changes back to the better, older picture. the VeggieVet account appears to reaffirm everything that "NightSky" says (while created that day) - even to the point of wanting to "restore" a picture that didn't appear on W at the time (and was therefor hidden). Yes, everyone crawls through the archives of each page to see what might have existed before (not). Anyone want to bet that the IP addresses of NightSky, VeggieVet and ENPCC (perhaps the PC is "persian cat" - shall we say a targetted purpose) are the same? I always Assume Good Faith, but not when there appears to be none on the other side. BTW, speak about "disheveled". Take a look at the picture you're trying to install. Terrible! Ungroomed. Unprofessional.