Talk:Perseus

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[edit] Naming of this page

As I have said on my talk page, there are two major meanings that could go here -- the mythological character and the constellation. In general, when one name is derived from the other (as in this case, the constellation from the mythological character), it is our policy to put the original name on the article. →Raul654 20:31, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

Yet, the disambiguation page was accepted and used by many. Create an ambiguity when disambiguation existed is useless. Breaking all the links (articles, Talk pages, watchlists and so on) is destructive and is a waste of time for everybody. I can't do it myself, but please reconsider a revert. You're imposing a lot of job to everybody here. (since nothing has obviously been done with the links and the interwikis. At least, that move should have been previoulsly discussed with other users. That is called democracy.Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 02:31, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi Robin. The way it is now is better. But, this raises the issue, should the presentation of the article be based on convenience or excellence? If you think about it I think you will agree it should be excellence. Wikipedia has plenty of time and people. What I usually do when I get hung up on an article or issue is take a break from it. Things look different down the road and it saves you a temper tantrum in which you quit or get banned from Wikipedia. And, just because your view didn't prevail doesn't mean this is not a democratic process. Best wishes.Dave 13:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Format

Hi arbani. I can see that your intent was to move the picture to the right. However your change put the picture all by itself! It looked awful. So I experimented a little and got the text to fill in. I think this is what you had in mind. If not, bring it up again. Best wishes. Thanks.Dave 13:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

sorry to inform people that the Greek-Roman gods love Ethiopia. Ethiopia=Aethiopia!?! Scholars USED to say such bias races things of that nature, BUT the more we as a whole research the more we find out that Black Africans had a place in Greco-Roman myths and lifestyles. moshun11 moultrie11@hotmail.com

[edit] Notes

"It is the sole surviving line from Aeschylus' lost play." Sorry if I'm being obtuse - but what is the sole surviving line from the play? This comment seems to be standing all on its own and doesn't seem to refer to anything... - Adaru 13:56, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

"Like a wild boar he entered the cave" is the line. Is it better now?

This is the best Greek mythological character page I have seen so far on Wikipedia. Good job whoever did this, it has better information than my textbook. Thanks!

[edit] Historical Perseus

Is all the speculation about historical Perseus based on Kerenyi or what? A quick flip through OCD and a couple of my books doesn't reveal any suggestion of a plausible historical connection. If it's a single author's theory, then that theory needs to be more clearly demarcated, so it doesn't look like a scholarly consensus. Stan 22:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

There is no speculation of this kind in Kerenyi, The heroes of the Greeks. --Wetman 05:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar Mistakes

Will somebody plese go through and edit all the grammar mistakes, please? I especially took notice of lack of capitalization after a period. like this. and it is annoying.

[edit] Horses?

"The Medusa was horselike in archaic representations[4], the terrible filly of a mare— Demeter, the Mother herself— who was in her mare nature when Poseidon assumed stallion form and covered her. The issue of her foaling were the gorgon sisters."

This story needs a source if it's going to be here--it doesn't appear on the pages for the Medusa or for the Gorgons, and the only related information Wikipedia has (or that I know of) is that Persephone was conceived when Demeter was in the form of a horse. I can't think of having read anthing like this about the Medusa anywhere nor can I find it online. PoetrixViridis 23:19, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

The little number 4 in the text above is blue because it would link an inquiring reader to a footnote, in this case to one reading "Kerenyi 1959:48". This means Karl Kerenyi's 1959 publication, page 48. Under References that reader would see the title, The Heroes of the Greeks, one of the most familiar books on Greek myth. I've added the passage from Pausanias to the note. If it's the Poseidon-as-stallion:Demeter-as-mare that is causing resistance here, I recommend the standard Kerenyi, The Gods of the Greeks, especially the section "Demeter, and Poseidon's stallion-marriage". We should certainly add the multiple equine connections to Gorgon or Medusa, a Wikipedian oversight. --Wetman 03:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corrections about the fight for Andromeda

I have corrected a glaring error in the fight for Andromeda. Someone had evidently entered the name of Agnor as the person who Perseus fought for his future wife, Andromeda in Aethiopia. Using Ovid's [[Metamorphoses]http://www.tkline.freeserve.co.uk/Metamorph5.htm#_Toc64106308] one finds that the uncle of Andromeda is called Phineus, not Agnor. With this change, one can visit the site listed, for further insight into this particular event in the story of Perseus.

Rmalmeida 10:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Perseus and Egypt

Perhaps, Perseus originally was an admiral of Egyptian Navy.

Consequently,

Perseus born in Chemmis (a ancient Egyptian city near Panopolis) (see Herodotus Histories). He was, originally, an admiral of Egyptian Navy.

He defeated Gorgons, an pirate people ( ~ Careans) of South Asia Minor or Cyprus (e.g. Golgi, an ancient Cypriot city) and killed its queen Medusa. So, he became famous.

Later, he undertook (by Egyptian nationalists) to assassinate Zannanza, an Hittites prince, son of Suppiluliuma I.

He should give Ankhesenamen ( = Andromeda) to Ay (= Phineus) but, indead, he drive Andromeda and his fleet to Argos of Greece.

--IonnKorr 14:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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