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Contents 1 PERSIANS NAMING OF THE GREEKS & THE VARIOUS GREEKS TRIBES THEY WERE AT WAR WITH 2 Persepolis Recreated - The Movie Documentary 3 History 4 Do you need any more pictures 5 living rock 6 Rating explanations: 7 References

[edit] PERSIANS NAMING OF THE GREEKS & THE VARIOUS GREEKS TRIBES THEY WERE AT WAR WITH

There are several types of Yauna in the Achaemenid Royal Inscriptions:

(1) Yaunβ in general: the same as the Greeks known as "Ionians", i.e., those living in Asia Minor. They can already be found in the Behistun Inscription, when the Persian rule had not yet reached Europe. This identification is 100% certain.

(2) Yaunβ takabarβ, the 'Greeks with shield-shaped hats'. First mentioned in DNa ( http://www.livius.org/aa-ac/achaemenians/DNa.html ), where they are distinguished from the "normal" Yaunβ: an almost certain reference to the Macedonian sunhats.

(3 and 4) "The Yaunβ, near and across the sea": another division, for the first time found in DSe ( http://www.livius.org/aa-ac/achaemenians/DSe.html ) and in a slightly different form in the Daiva Inscription by Xerxes (XPh: http://www.livius.org/aa-ac/achaemenians/XPh.html ). The obvious reading is "the Asian Yauna and the European Yauna", i.e., -again- Asian Greeks and Macedonians.

On the other hand, Persian inscriptions are fairly stereotypical, and the fact that there is a small difference between the precise wording of DSe and XPh suggests that there is a difference. Perhaps, there is a difference between the "Yauna across the sea" and the sunhat-Yaunβ. If this is correct, the Yauna across the sea must be either Cypriot Greeks (but why didn't Darius, who seems to have subdued Cyprus, mention them?) or the Thessalians, Boeotians, and Athenians - nations that Xerxes could claim to have conquered.

(5) There is a seal from the age of Xerxes ( http://www.livius.org/a/1/greece/yauna_seal.jpg ) in which the great king defeats someone looking like a Yauna. It is unique, because a second man appears to have a hand in the killing, and this man looks like a Yauna. Is this the Macedonian king Alexander who helps killing a Thessalian/Boeotian/Athenian??

Such instances are extremely rare since only a handful of original Persian texts have survived.There are of references by Darius I in the Behistun Inscription to Sardis (OP Sparda), Ionia (OP Yauna) and Cappadocia (OP Katpatuka). There are also a couple of statements concerning the Greeks and their tribes in the Babylonian tablets.

[edit] Persepolis Recreated - The Movie Documentary

Seized and burned by Alexander the Great's conquering army, shaken by uncounted earthquakes, eroded by 25 centuries of rain, fluctuating temperatures and scouring winds, Persepolis-the greatest of the royal residences of ancient Persia-is a definitive ancient ruin.

Yet, the place remains an awesomely impressive sight 2,500 years after it was built. Even today, those who step up to its gigantic terrace of 125,000 square meters and see its majestic columns are filled with a sense of awe drifting into a dream-like trance.

A dream in which one tries to visualize the beauty and dazzling splendor of Persepolitan palaces before their sad destruction.

"Persepolis Recreated" is the name of the most recent documentary film , which is available and you can view here online at this site: Persepolis Recreated - Reconstruction of Persepolis

[edit] History

This article badly needs a history section about who built it and when.. --K a s h ^{Talk | email} 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

No one built Persepolis. Persepolis was a city. You can't say who built New York City. Yes the Apadana Palace among with other Palaces such as Xerxes are built at the same area by different kings such as Darius The Great, Xerxes, etc. Different kings added their own Palace to the old Palace making bigger and bigger. 66.36.129.159 20:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do you need any more pictures

I have pictures from when I visited persepolis if you need any -User: Farzon Lotfi

[edit] living rock

What is 'living rock'? Njál 15:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rating explanations:

Think there would be no real contests about the top importance of Persepolis as a core topic on the History of Iran and as it belongs to the UNESCO list.

The article needs a coordinated work, being about daily edited with minor imports. Such work shall include a better ordered plan, developp some sections (history of the site, art & architecture, complex itself (terrace) including description and fonctionnal approach of each monument, other elements not being in the terrace (royal tombs, downtown, drains and water channels, garden, tablets). A chapter should also summarize the controversies about the site and its functions/occupations. The article is poorly sourced, notes and references should be seriously reworked.

One can have a look into the french wikipedia version to see what I mean 217.15.92.33 12:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

• The French article has some lovely English-language references; this would be a good starting place for referencing this article. -- phoebe/(talk) 00:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)