Talk:Percy Bysshe Shelley

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"He was a jewish and lived in wisconsin. Don't listen to anthing these people say!!! It's incorrect and he was born around 240 B.C. It is impossible for him to write any literature unless he did it with his blood!" It's in the drowning section but for some reason it doesn't show up when I open the edit. I would also appreciate if someone could explain how I could fix this sort of thing in the future.

This sentence really amused me:

"A few weeks after her body was recovered from the Serpentine River in London's Hyde Park, Shelley and Mary Godwin were married."

With the sentence before it, it makes a little more sense, however sentences are supposed to make complete sense on their own; i.e. not use pronouns referring to nouns not yet referred to in the sentence in question

I question the validity of this.

It's also rather funny.

Did you know that you can edit the article to fix it? Just click on "Edit this page" when you are viewing the article page.—Eloquence 07:30, Feb 26, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Clarification Needed 2 Pisa Landlocked 3 His name 4 Death 5 new section 6 "Scholarly Magazine" ? 7 Expulsion from Oxford 8 Peculiar in medias res biography

[edit] Clarification Needed

In addition to the use of pronouns mentioned in the previous topic, this article features a lot of discussion of Marys, Wollstonecrafts, and Godwins, and it's not always clear who is being referenced. Furthermore, I'd appreciate some comment on Shelley's habit of marrying--is he divorcing first, is he consistently abandoning his previous wife, or is he exercising polygamy in line with his free love values? Will need outside references to clean these up.

Um, he wasn't in the habit of marrying. He only married twice, and that was only because he felt he had to. Why and how and all of that is a really complex issue.

[edit] Pisa Landlocked

I deleted Pisa from the drowning segment, as Shelley was not sailing from Pisa, nor could he have done so.

[edit] His name

I've always wondered about this. We tend to refer to him by his full name rather than just Percy Shelley. Is this because he always used his full name, or some other reason? JackofOz 09:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

From everything I've ever seen, he signed papers (especially poems) using his full name. I think today some people leave out his middle name because they either don't know how to pronounce it or are too lazy. Many scholars today, however, simply refer to him as Shelley, and Mary Shelley as Mary Shelley or Mary. I've also read that during his own lifetime, people called him by his last name.

[edit] Death

Added a few sentences about the Julian Rathbone novel which explains Shelley's death as murder by the English government, not sure if it's a valid inclusion or not. what do people think? Also, I understood that Shelley couldn't swim. which obviously didn't help when his boat sunk. This is not mentioned in the article, does anyone know if this is a proven fact??Paul75 20:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

To be completely honest, I think the whole "assassination" part of this biography is bunk and sounds more like a half-hearted conspiracy theory. While I don't suppose we'd be able to ever prove or de-prove he couldn't swim, that's what I've always read.

If the novel is significant, it can be mentioned in some sort of section about Shelley's appearance in popular culture. It should not be mentioned as a serious theory on Shelley's death. john k 01:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new section

have just made a new section for the Rathbone novel, as per suggestion. There are a lot of scattered references to Shelley in popular literature; it would be nice to reference the major ones here. I know Swinburne and Browning referred to him on several occasions. A section on Shelley and the Chartist movement would also be a good idea. Will dig up my ancient abortive Ph.D. notes and construct one. -- Rimi 07:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Scholarly Magazine" ?

What "scholarly magazine" in Serbia claimed their was enough evidence that Shelley was killed by the British govt? - Anon 6:12PM EST 11/18/2006

Isn't Shelley dead well before Chartism becomes prominent, thus eliminating one reason for his supposed "assassination" by the government.

[edit] Expulsion from Oxford

I notice this page makes no notice of his expulsion from Oxford University, as retaliation for a paper he wrote, titled, "The Necessity of Atheism." This seems to be a noteworthy and significant event from his life. Unfortunately, I have neither the time nor the talent, I fear, to add it myself. Could somebody do this? - Anon 04:06, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

This information was restored from the 07:59, 1 December 2006 Glen S version. (See comment below.) Bear475 20:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peculiar in medias res biography

The "Biography" section begins "In the summer of 1816, Ciera and Mary made a second trip to Switzerland." What? Who the heck is Ciera? Why does the Biography begin when Shelley is twenty-four? I would think a full rewrite is needed. Dybryd 21:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Quite a bit of text was deleted at the beginning of the article (apparently by vandals) after December 1, 2006. I have restored as much as I could. It appears the version of 07:59, 1 December 2006 Glen S is the most complete, but there have been a few valid additions since then. I decided not to just revert back to that version. Bear475 20:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)