User talk:Penbat

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

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[edit] Merging Workplace bullying

I wonder if you COULD just find time to pop to the bottom of this page Talk:Bully and formally express your opinion on merging Workplace bullying into the article? It works like a kind of poll, so that whatever opinion you express will affect the eventual outcome? Thank You --Zeraeph 17:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

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I really hope that when you have read these links there will be no cause for further unpleasantness and instead a new spirit of appropriate co-operation. --Zeraeph 17:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

I am very, very concerned about comments like this one - calling another user a "blatant narcissist" "malignant narcissist" is not acceptable; it is a personal attack, and personal attacks are not tolerated here. I am also concerned about your comments on Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_September_25#Sam_Vaknin, where you repeatedly give as the only rationale for undeletion, that it has been "poisoned by Zeraeph". Please be civil and assume good faith in future. David Mestel^(Talk) 06:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

It's ironic that Zeraeph herself is currently under Wiki suspension for personal attacks.

Your statement that "you repeatedly give as the only rationale for undeletion, that it has been "poisoned by Zeraeph"." is patently untrue. I have currently made 7 separate comments on Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_September_25#Sam_Vaknin and only two even mention Zeraeph. Most of the discusion has centered around whether Sam Vaknin self published or not. I personally discussed numerous rationale. --Penbat 08:56, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Also calling someone a "narcissist" isnt necessarily an insult.--Penbat 10:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it's fair to assume that "malignant narcissist" is, though. David Mestel^(Talk) 14:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I will resist the temptation of a long winded discussion with you about Zeraeph.--Penbat 15:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Penbat, Two times? Two individual? I know people may talk about Vaknin in insulting terms, but they are talking about what they have been led to believe about him. Maybe this is really hitting you close to home? I know Sam's book has helped so many people who have been bullied by seriously disordered serial bullies.

I know you feel strongly about this. Maybe you should write Sam and vent in his direction for awhile. If I were working as hard as you, I'd be pretty burned out by now. For me, I find it easier on my PTSD/CFIDS to just debate issues by supporting my POV.

You are doing a tremendous amount of good hard solid work on NPD and other articles. You have really moved this article forward in adding citations, and I have seen other people helping along with rewordings, corrections and such. I am happy for all that is going on. Focus on the positive and let things that bug you just flow on by.

Take Care -I am Kiwi 15:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks mate. Workplace bullying was my main focus but to do it justice you have to include narcissism so I am certainly interested in that as well. Also I can see that narcissism is a hugely important concept in many contexts. It pretty much shapes the world we live in. --Penbat 22:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Attacks Talk:Workplace bullying

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Zeraeph 19:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)