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[edit] Naive / Naïve

Hi - please see Talk:Naïve (The Kooks song) before reverting any further edits regarding the song name. The page will shortly be moved, as there is no verifiable evidence of the umlaut being needed. Indeed, there is lots of evidence that the umlaut is erronerous, and therefore should be altered. Please do not violate WP:3RR by reverting again. DJR (Talk) 23:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I've followed up at the above mentioned talk page. --PEJL 23:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page guidelines

Please do not remove talk page comments from other users. This can be considered vandalism and repeated talk page blanking can result in a block. Thanks. --Madchester 19:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I meant no harm, I simply thought the old comments were irrelevant since the issue was resolved. I see now that policy is to not do so, and will comply. --PEJL 19:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naturally

I've got better things to do than to argue with you, but that is not the way the tracks are written on the album. --Blahm 20:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Right, but the standard way to format track names on Wikipedia is to use normal English title capitalization rules (for English language track names). See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums#Style and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Music#General. --PEJL 21:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please use a summary

I have noticed that you often edit without an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline in Wikipedia. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may think you're being sneaky. Also, mentioning one change but not another one can be misleading to someone who finds the other one more important; add "and misc." to cover the other change(s). Thanks! --Mark (Talk) 12:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

{{subst:Summary2-response-will-do-my-best}}. Hmm, no such template... ;-) --PEJL 13:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Escondida

Hi. I was wondering why it was that you removed the section on Escondida about the strike there. Maybe the phrasing wasn't the best, but it was properly sourced and, I feel, encyclopedic. If such an important mine has a large strike, making international news, I believe that information should be included. --Estrellador* 17:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That section was within a HTML comment and as such wasn't visible in the article. I have no preference for whether it should be in the article or not, but having it commented-out seemed pointless, and was throwing off the layout of the page. --PEJL 01:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Cool. I didn't comment it out; it was another user, who lacks other edits. Odd. Anyway, cheers for the response. --Estrellador* 16:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Album titles and capitalization

OK, yes you are correct about the English rules of spelling and how to correctly add capitals to words, and so on and so forth. But, if you read on, it also says that the English rules do not apply (all the time) to titles that are unique and that may require the capitals. It makes things more confusing when the album titles are not the same as Wikipedia has them. It's much easier to read and understand the letter for letter spelling of the Modest Mouse albums. Take The Beatles albums for example, all are spelled the way they were intended, not by the English rules of capitalization. I hope we can come to an agreement on this. Hucz 06:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

(This was in response to a note I left on User talk:Hucz.) I will follow up on your user talk page. Please keep further discussion on this topic there, to make it easier to follow. Thanks. --PEJL 06:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Did you get my message? Well, to save you time all it really says is what albums you were going to move back, but seeing that you're already doing that, I'll leave it at that. Just one question. Does the title within the article have to have the English capitalization rules? Or can they just stay as they are? Hucz 04:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, missed it until now. Like I said at your talk page, I believe they should be consistent. --PEJL 04:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
OK then, it's settled. Hucz 05:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Great! BTW, Ocean Breathes Salty looks nice. --PEJL 05:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank-you, and cheers mate. Hucz 05:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] chronologies

I'm not sure about precendent, but there has been a long established consensus that EPs are part of the singles chronology, not albums, at least in the case of Arctic Monkeys. DJR (T) 08:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

(This was in response to a note I left on User talk:Djr xi.) I will follow up on your user talk page. Please keep further discussion on this topic there, to make it easier to follow. Thanks. --PEJL 13:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Track listing hyphens

Hey man, I'm having some difficulty trying to insert these so called "dashes" into a track listing. They look kind of like longer hyphens, and here's an example on Modest Mouse's album, This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About. If you take a look at the text in the "edit this page" box, and you compare it to the one I'm trying to mimic on Blue Cadet-3, Do You Connect?, maybe you can find a mistake I'm doing. Your help would be much appreciated. Hucz 05:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Track listings should use so-called "en dashes". See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dashes)#Dashes on keyboards for how to enter those. Alternatively, use can use the first character linked after "Insert:" in the list of characters below the editable text area. Hope this helps. --PEJL 05:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, you're a big help. Hucz 05:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Track Listing (Continuum)

G'day mate, I didn't realise that I'd said I was an advanced HTML user, nonetheless, I know what you're saying. i have some coding habits that're probably not the best, but they're there anyway, so I'm fine with the adjustments. I do understand the concept of consistency across WP and agree that much of it can be, but there are times where exceptions can be made (my reasoning behind this is that we have access to use CSS and HTML, so why not use them?) where it makes it somewhat more visually appealing. I don't claim to be the best designer here on Wikipedia, but some people don't mind what i do (I updated the design on the template for Template:Studio60 (talk, links, edit) which another user then adopted the design to be the same for the OC: Template:OCnavigation (talk, links, edit). Anyway, you're doing a lot of good stuff around the John Mayer pages, in stark contrast to the majority of the people who just throw random crap in there (which I usually try to keep at bay, amongst all the other pages I suss out). Thanks for that. I'll try to work in harmony with you in there, though.
--lincalinca 06:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: Did you see the Template:Singles (talk, links, edit) I included on the JM Album pages? I made that template the other day. What do you think?
--lincalinca 06:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
(I've followed up at User talk:Lincalinca.) --PEJL 07:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I meant that the design was something accepted, but I accepted that the acticle didn't meet WP:ALBUMS in that it didn't have quotation marks around the song titles and such (which I've re-included on my most recent edit, to maintain that the article does keep with the appropriate guidelines).
--lincalinca 04:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's fine. Stylistically, it doesn't need to change, but I now see what you mean otherwise. Go ahead.
--lincalinca 05:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wolfmother

Hey, thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of that, and personally, I'm not pleased that I can't find any discussion condemning it's use. So I brought it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. Again, thanks for the note. Keep up the good work. --Reaper X 22:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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