Talk:Pearl Jam discography

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1 Jeremy
2 "Ten" album sales
3 Is "Black" a "Ten" single?
4 Man of the Hour
5 live in london

[edit] Jeremy

Let's talk about this before it becomes an edit war.Billboards offical site claims Jeremy charted at #75 on the billboard hot 100.allmusic guide claims its peak was at #7.Other reliable wikipedians keep changing it to #79.Does anyone know for sure what Jeremy's peak was?I was only 5 at the time so I don't remember. -SOADLuver Just to let people know I was actually 12 when Jeremy came out sorry about the confusion

[edit] "Ten" album sales

The edit war over the U.S. Album sales needs to be resolved. If someone could please post some factual information regarding the exact album sales figure then we could come up with a definitive answer to this problem. Doesn't the RIAA calculate these figures? Enough of the back and forth edits, let's have a discussion about this. Someone please provide some references for the figures. -MattWatt 21:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Link to RIAA top 100 albums shows Pearl Jam "Ten" having recieved 12.0 level (http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topalbums.asp). This is 12x Platinum, and from my understanding, a Platinum rating is given for every 1 million units distributed from the manufacturers (http://www.riaa.com/gp/certification/criteria.asp). "Ten" was certified 12x Platinum on 9/11/2003. This information can be found on the RIAA website. So does this conclude that the U.S. sales figures for "Ten" are 12 million? It certainly seems that way to me, unless someone has some other info. -MattWatt 21:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

No actually.If you go to the main page you may read that this arguement has already been resolved.The RIAA count how many albums were SHIPPED.Tens sales ARE 9.4.period - SOADLuver

Actually I did, per your advice, and everything agrees with my statement. The sales are 12 million and there is no source for 9.4. Everyone has agreed it is 12 million, per the RIAA, and I am enforcing what is agreed on Pearl Jam's main article. I can guarantee you there aren't 2.6 million unsold "Ten" albums sitting in stores around the U.S. What make's SoundScan's figures more accurate? -MattWatt 05:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[1] here's my source.A billboard article.Billboard uses only Soundscan figures in there articles.WHAT MAKES SOUNDSCANS FIGURES MORE ACCURATE!!!!!You must be a newbie.Please quit making a fool of yourself.An argument has already been made over this.Soundscan is the source.They are the ones that count sales figure down to the exact number.AND GUESS WHAT?I have a subscription AND GUESS WHAT?Ten's ales ARE 9.4.The RIAA count how many albums are shipped.Don't revert it back. - SOADLuver

Look kid. I've seen that source. I understand the differences between the two and I ask, again, why one is more legitimate than the other. Your attitude is uncalled for, especially coming from some kid named SOADLuver. Perhaps you should wander back to Myspace, because I can guarantee you that you wont become a Wikipedia Administrator with your attitude and maturity. I'd be interested to see what an Administrator would think of the way this "edit war" has been handled. Don't come here and trash an article and discussion for a band that I've been listening to since you were most likely in elementary school. That's great, you've got a free registration to SoundScan. I don't need one, and I've seen the figures. Let me ask you something else, are you also a 10+ year member of the TenClub? Why don't you leave the real PJ fans to take care of these articles. -MattWatt 19:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

listen ten-9.4 sold.Soundscan free?since when I pay 20$ a month.Bring in an admisistrator.What makes soundscan's figures more accurate!Whats wrong with you man soundscan is the company that counts records sold.Obviously your new to wikipedia.Do you think I made up the term "edit war".Bring in an admin.Because my source is from Billboard.Why is it better than yours?Because Billboard uses soundscan figures in all of there articles.

BTW I bought Ten the month it came out and I've been part of the Ten Club for 3 years.not like it means anything to this discussion.And I never trashed this acrticle.As for my comment I am sorry I've had a long day some moron keeps addind nonsence to The Killers page I guess I was sorta grumpy for that I apologize -SOADLuver< 36 year old owner of every Pearl Jam album and attende of 4 Pearl Jam concerts.

[edit] Is "Black" a "Ten" single?

There seems to be a small edit war over whether or not "Black" should be included on the list of "Ten" singles. The Black article itself says this song was never released as a single, but I do know I've seen a very rare singled release for this song. Let's resolve this... -MattWatt 21:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The more I thought about it no Black should not be on the singles list if it wasn't released as a single, but if it was released on a limited release than yes it should be on there. - SOADLuver

The only thing I have been able to come up with is that it may have been released as a single in other countries(possibly Mexico), but not the U.S. There really isn't much information and these are obviously quite rare. I've really been digging for hours and can't come up with anything more definative than that, but I did see a copy on eBay a long time ago, and I believe it was labeled as a promo. I would say it should be removed from the list of singles since it seems to be far too obscure. -MattWatt 05:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

yes if it was released in a rare radio release I'll delete it. - SOADLuver

[edit] Man of the Hour

Didn't the song Man of the Hour (from Big Fish soundtrack) make it onto the Modern Rock or Mainstream Rock charts briefly in late '03 or early '04? I don't see it listed. JDK77590 17:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. -SOADLuver