Talk:Paul Cain
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[edit] Why is there no discussion here?
The page has been edited several times but noone cares to give their motives.
I've arked the page in need of a cleanup.
--itpastorn 20:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. The article is purely POV. Hopefully we can clean up as part of the Charismatic project (see template above). David L Rattigan 21:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
additional documentation:
Here's what Paul Cain himself had to say about the situation in March 2005
A Letter of Confession
I must apologize to the body of Christ for my recent conduct. I want to correct the denials that I made earlier in reference to charges brought against me. I acknowledge the following:
1. I have struggled in two particular areas, homosexuality and alcoholism, for an extended period of time. 2. I apologize for denying these matters of truth, rather than readily admitting them. I especially apologize to Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, and Mike Bickle for my misunderstanding of their attempt to discipline me according to Matthew 18. I have come to appreciate their loving intent for me in this process. 3. I am ashamed of what I have done to hurt those close to me and the pain I have caused those who have believed in my ministry. Particularly, if I have hurt anyone by my actions of emotional or sexual misconduct, I am very sorry. I sincerely ask for your forgiveness.
I have submitted to a team of leaders in the body of Christ who are supervising every aspect of my restoration. This team is headed by Larry J. Alberts (Fathers and Families Together, Minneapolis, MN) and Dr. Daniel J. Kim (Destiny Training International, El Monte, CA). Larry has considerable experience in restoration ministry and has been requested by leaders such as John Wimber, Rick Joyner, and Francis Frangipane to help restore highly significant ministers in the body of Christ. Daniel directs a training center which emphasizes biblical spirituality and prophetic reformation. I have submitted to Larry and Daniel to develop an appropriate program, involving professional treatments, so that I may walk in moral purity, spiritual and physical health, and wholeness of life.
With hope in Christ,
Paul Cain
I cannot find a current link on Cain's website, however this have been archived by the wayback machine from Cain's official website. I saw the original when it was posted.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050305180223/http://paulcain.org/news.html
It appears now that Cain has now decided to not continue with the restoration process with Larry Alberts. The reference for that is the Article posted by J. Lee Grady, the editor of Charisma magazine.
http://forums.strang.com/viewtopic.php?t=7820
Please note that Charisma magazine is a Charismatic publication, one that would normally ally itself with ministers such as Cain. Bickle, Geene and Joyer were also Ministers who worked with Cain. Cain spent most of his time with Bickle's church in Kansas City, Mo., when not travelling.
It is not disputed that Cain's ministry came to a screeching halt with the revelation that he was an alcolholic and a practicing homosexual. Nor is it disputed that he is not currently ministering,hence the change to "was" a minister.
The morningstar bulletin states there was some evidence of some homosexual activity. Steven Strang collaborated with Joyner on this topic in his own press release in Charisma. It does not state that Paul is a practicing homosexual. Nor did Cain himself in his press release state that he is a homosexual. But in his own words. In a Letter of Confession 1. I have struggled in two particular areas, homosexuality..., for an extended period of time. Struggling with this moral issue over a period of time as Cain said in his own words. Is certainly not the same as practicing or living the life style as a homosexual. That would be like I struggle in the area of drinking diet coke. But struggling is not the same as actually drinking diet coke as a lifestyle or drinking coke period. But ive thought about it..
Paul Cain apologized for his **conduct**. His words. Conduct does not mean leanings, tendancies, or stuggles. It means Conduct.
I'll let Cain state it in his owns words and let people draw their own conclusions.
