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Patstuart is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia around February 15th



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[edit] Chilean edits

Hello, Patstuart, since you have made several edits to articles about Chile, you may be interested in looking at the Wikipedia:Chile-related regional notice board to pick up on other topics that need attention, or to express needs which you perceive pertaining to Chile. JAXHERE | Talk 01:31, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey, thanks for sticking up for me.

Hey, like i said in the title!, thank you for sticking up for me when that IP (The notice on my talk page was unsigned, no names at ALL) Said i'd been reported.

And yes, I'm glad that some people have finally realized that fd0man and Illuminato have made plenty of mistakes and false accusations etc...

I mean I have as well, but a fair amount of it was when I'd been on WP for only a few days :-)

Thanks again, those two are really becoming increasingly annoying and stepping up their 'violation reports' as they just LOVE to call them.

But as Xiner said, i'm going to stop editing and trying to resolve this mess for a coupla weeks unless something REALLY BIG pops up. Until then, i'll work on some other articles.

See ya, Nateland 01:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Re: Your suggestion at User:Luna Santin/Improve me

Yeah, that sounds like something I need to work on -- are there any particular messages that prompted this suggestion? Luna Santin 23:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I got you mixed up with someone else. But, in fact, there was one minor incident: [[1]]. I probably shouldn't be too picky, though. Patstuarttalk·edits 23:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Heh, fair enough. ;) Regardless of whether you had the right target, you hit a nerve, so you couldn't have been too far off, eh? Thanks, either way. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AFC template

Hello, Pat. I lightened the background color of the {{afc top}} template just a shade. I changed the color from #D0D0D0 to #E0E0E0 because I thought the gray color was just a little too dark. I wanted to let you know because you are the major contributor to AFC. If you object to the color change, feel free to change it back again.

This background color is #E0E0E0.
This is the new color of the template.

This background color is #D0D0D0.
This was the old color of the template.

DanMS 16:48, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks good now, as a collapsing menu. However, I do like that gray color a bit better... Patstuarttalk·edits 23:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

i'm sorry greenday101

All is good, just keep it clean :) Patstuarttalk·edits 23:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your break

Hey! Your break is over, you can come back now :) Hope everything is OK, I hope to see you about again soon. Majorly (o rly?) 22:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for watching out for me. :) Patstuarttalk·edits 03:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About vandal warning

Your bot reported the vandal 208.25.243.137(talk)(contributions) at 18:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC) and gave what you called their "last warning." This user has continued to edit other pages, and while occasionally doing something remotely helpful, they are usually simply vandalizing. Since your bot was the one who gave the warning, and since you are significantly dedicated to stopping/cleaning up vandalism, I thought that you would be interested in blocking this user once and for all. If I have not followed/broken the rules for this type of process, please notify me on my talk page. I'm fairly new here and I could use any advice I could get. Thank you for your time. Minrice2099 18:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Might want to take that one to WP:AIV. Patstuarttalk·edits 23:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I've asked for protection from Mr Finishwinner:he has come to this wikipedia to vandalise Category: Breton Cyclists, and has recognized it on my discussion page. Shelley Konk 08:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Is he back again? For pete's sake, I think it's time to take this to WP:AN if he does it again. Patstuarttalk·edits 23:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
...Or not. Looks like it's a recreated category: it was decided by community consensus to delete the page (see the page logs). Patstuarttalk·edits 23:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thankyou for removing vandalism of User Talk:MOOTOOG

MOOTOOG would like to say thankyou for reverting the vandalism done to his user talk page. It is much appreciated. In Gratitude, MOOTOOG's Lawyer and MOOTOOG.

Yeah, sure.... Patstuarttalk·edits 23:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back!

It's been a while since I've seen you at AIV. Welcome back, Patstuart. =) Nishkid64 23:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Can't say how much I'll be editing though. I immediately got did all the stuff in Wikipedia I shouldn't have been doing to start: got in an nasty argument at WP:RFC/NAME (this issue seems to hit a nerve in me), and severely procrastinated in other stuff in real life. *Sigh*. :) Patstuarttalk·edits 23:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yey welcome back! :) Majorly (o rly?) 13:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

hi thanks for welcoming me to wikipedia


Swearnese 15:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure! Patstuarttalk·edits 15:05, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
yeah.. thanks

Swearnese 15:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you see this?

Hi Pat. On Maelwys RfA, you opposed, citing his edit count and "literally 0 XFD or AIV edits." He's since replied to you and pointed out that he has several AIV edits (not that he said anything about blocking vandals in question 1) and dozens of XfD edits. Have you considered changing or withdrawing your vote per this reply? If not, could you do so? Thanks. Picaroon 19:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I've thought about it, thanks. Apparently the edit count on the talk page isn't entirely correct. It did change some things, but the problem is I'm leaning to weak oppose, as opposed to neutral. I still am not sure this editor has enough experience (<3000 edits). Thanks for the call, though; I'll see into it. Patstuarttalk·edits 20:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Civility issues

Please be civil in your discourse on talk pages: [2][3][4][5][6][7]Patstuarttalk·edits 14:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

None of the above edits comprise any breaking of civility whatsoever. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 15:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

To you and User:Ward3001 over User:ColdDiablo's vandalism --Audiovideo 03:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chatting on wikipedia

You just edited my talk page asking me not to use wikipedia as a chatting agent. I think you have made an error, if not, can I ask for some references for this accusation. Mootoog 04:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC) (As translated by MOOTOOG's lawyer)

I am quite sure I have not made an error. Your page speaks for itself, as have the edits of at least 5 other usernames to the page. Patstuarttalk·edits 04:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I have recently been thanking people for protecting my page from vandalism, as you can see in the history tab for my page, this happens a lot, I do not think thanking people is against any rule. The addition to my page is to try to sort out said vandalism problem, as I am getting tired of persistent vandalism. Those 5 edits are either people protecting my page, or vandals. I would like to highlight the fact that I am not in control of who posts on my page, if I was, it would never become vandalised, and one such as you, who deals with vandalism on a regular basis, should understand this. I hope that clarifies everything, Mootoog 05:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, all will be good, so long as you continue to contribute positively. Patstuarttalk·edits 05:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to remove that warning from my talk page? I contribute as much as I can, but due to my limited spare time, I do not get many chances to edit, and much of the time I have is wasted with vandalism to my user page. Mootoog 05:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you may remove the warning, though I would encourage you to remove the other load of comments from your talk page as well. If you wish to put comments, it's usually best to put them on your user page. Patstuarttalk·edits 05:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, I am glad we have sorted this out. I might go and do a bit of tidying up of my talk page. Mootoog 05:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Any time. Glad to be of assistance. Patstuarttalk·edits 05:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Howard K. Stern

Cease with your editing. Howard K. Stern is Jewish. Why do you have a problem with this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mortifer (talkcontribs).

Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia. In any case, could you please sign your comments and put them at the bottom of the talk page? That is the current convention on WP. Secondly, I removed the information, as I explained, because there is no source for it. If you can find a reliable source, then OK. Otherwise, there's no way to be sure of it; especially in light of the fact that there may be some confusion between this Howard Stern and the other. In any case, the onus is on you to provide the reliable source, as per policy. Thanks. Patstuarttalk·edits 08:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Another Prin sock

You said: "User_talk:Naveen_Sankar. The guy was silly enough to use the unblock-auto template on his talk page."

This person is indeed a sockpuppeteer (see Template:PhysInd anon) but does not appear to be the same person as Prin, just someone at the same university or college. --Yamla 14:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lobsterkins

An unblock may be more than appropriate - it is indefinite rather than permanent, after all. Natalie 14:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help Request: Lost And Found (Christian Rock Band)

I've been trying to edit the photos so they'd be better and not in a long line, but everything I do just causes them to overlap and makes the page look like a mess. Can somebody please help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_and_Found_%28Christian_rock_band%29 Stein Auf! KagomeShuko 05:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Empty category

This is what you were talking about, no? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.79.174 (talk) 02:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Yes, thank you. All reverts undone. Patstuarttalk·edits 02:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories under discussion

Hello, thank you for the reminder. I'll admit I was being a little rough, but I thought it was appropriate given the context. I also was not the only one who was doing that. The simple truth is that no member of the WPMILHST project will allow that category into any article relating to military history (and yes, I think I speak for all of them when I say that). The whole thing is fairly farcical; if there's any case where IAR applies, it's here, so take that as my explanation if you want.UberCryxic 02:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I would say this was not a good time to use IAR, simply because one cannot determine in a category discussion if the category is illegit. However, seeing the category in force now, I'm tending to agree that it's bad. Patstuarttalk·edits 02:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, there is nothing to determine, and that's why I mentioned that the process was somewhat farcical. The category is illegitimate, and beyond that it's quite dumb. Plain and simple. Someone tried to get a speedy delete but for some reason was told to nominate the category for deletion, where the overwhelming opinion is for delete. Btw, I have a question regarding that: why hasn't the category been deleted yet? The votes are there, the time is there (several days spent on that; no new arguments being proposed), sooo....kinda weird.UberCryxic 02:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I will remove those articles from the category again. Even if you disagree with this decision, other editors from WPMMILHST will do it anyway (and they did). There are just....so many problems with this category. That's why I'm removing those articles. They don't belong there.UberCryxic 02:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

No, please do not remove the categories. Perhaps the one of the war that wasn't actually a war, but that's it. And this cannot be speedily deleted because, quite simply, it doesn't fall under the criteria: WP:CSD#Categories. Please do not delete the cats. WPMMILHST is a Wikiproject, and its decisions are not rule.
As for why the cat is not deleted: there's an administrative backlog. Patstuarttalk·edits 02:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Do you know which administrators take care of that section? I can simply ask one of them to delete it right now. Would solve a lot of our problems.UberCryxic 03:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, everything else aside, mainly the rancor, one can still safely apply IAR and the snowball clause here. Under almost any standard, bureaucratic or otherwise, that one can devise, this category deserves isolation and, ultimaltely, deletion.UberCryxic 03:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

That's all well and good, but it could still take a while. Do you know of any admins that specifically deal with that section or those like it? It would do much in terms of saving time and frustration just to ask one of them personally, even though admittedly it's not the best course (we've been through good courses already, and frankly this category has overstayed its welcome).UberCryxic 03:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Posting at AN often gets something accomplished quicker than you might think. However, I would advise going through the history of recently completed discussions and seeing which admins are in the habit of closing cfd's. Patstuarttalk·edits 03:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not want to involve myself in your AN comments, but can you explicitly request that someone there actually delete the category itself. I don't know if you were skirting around this issue or anything (I don't think you were); it's just not clear from what you wrote. Furthermore, yes other people will delete those articles from that category. I honestly cannot see the MILHIST project tolerating the existence of this category, regardless of any rules or guidelines. Again, with something this odious, IAR can be worked in there in one way or anotherUberCryxic 03:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I should note that you did not get every article that was deleted from that cat. The Italian Wars was another that the user originally placed that was removed, and you might have missed a few others too.UberCryxic 03:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually I went ahead and clarified some of these concerns over there.UberCryxic 03:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately, it appears that an admin has now deleted the cat. Patstuarttalk·edits 15:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Luxembourgish alpine skiers CFD

I was wondering why you preferred the form Category:Alpine skiers of Luxembourg over Category:Luxembourgian alpine skiers. The other alpine skier subcategories all use the form <adjectival> alpine skiers. There is ample evidence that Luxembourgian is the correct adjectival, including being cited as the adjectival by WikiProject Luxembourg. Last but not least, the naming conventions for categories of people with a common nationality and occupation call for generally using the form <adjectival> <occupationers>. Caerwine Caer’s whines 22:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Thanks for that notice. I had not seen that before. I guess you are correct. Patstuarttalk·edits 15:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Corinne Orr.jpg

Dear Pat Stuart,

Well... since you have an announcement warning that you make mistakes regularly - I'm writing to report another one. You have written the following information about photo I have submitted:

Image:Corinne Orr.jpg - claims pd-self, but upload summary specifically says "photograph by X person", and same photo Image:Corinne orr.jpg is listed as copyrighted. No indication uploader owns copyright. Patstuarttalk·edits 13:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

The entry says "Photograph by Anthony Wynn" - and I am Anthony Wynn. I have uploaded a photo that was personally taken by me of Corinne Orr. I would like to request that you take this photo off the 'Possibly unfree" watchlist. This error probably resulted from the fact that I re-submitted a corrected image (due to an odd spot on Corinne's nose in the originally submitted picture).

Thanks for your help.

Anthony Wynn


P.S. You have a banner stating that you're on a "wikibreak" until February 15. Is that February 15, 2008?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Starparty (talkcontribs).

I will post a notice at WP:PUI. In the future, feel free to do so yourself. Patstuarttalk·edits 15:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AFC

I did remove the two entries altogether, and posted notices to that extent; one of them was an advertisement, the other patent nonsense. If I should have handled the case differently, I'll be glad to learn. - Mike Rosoft 16:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The only things that should be removed are copyvios, personal attacks, or patent nonsense. Otherwise, it's best to keep the text, and use the templates: see Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Templates. Patstuarttalk·edits 16:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
And if I remove an entry, should I do as I did previously, or should I remove it altogether, even with the heading? - Mike Rosoft 16:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
If it's a copyvio, keep the heading, and use the templates to decline. Otherwise, you can do it either way; I just remove the whole thing; I see no point in feeding the trolls. Patstuarttalk·edits 16:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. - Mike Rosoft 16:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just a heads up

You recently declined a request for article creation by User:Cbodonnell. In that, he used a WP link for evidence... the link was a hoax, caused by adding false information to the New England Revolution per the same user. I've reverted it back (he replaced the name of one of the team's recent draftees to his own. Probably an account to keep an eye on. SirFozzie 19:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)