User talk:PatPeter

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Contents 1 User talk:PatPeter/Index 2 Wikipages 3 Wikiedits 4 User talk 4.1 JungleCat's Question 4.2 Re: Category:User templates (on my user talk) 4.3 Thank you (sarcasm) 4.4 Reply to Your Userpage 4.5 User:Blast san/userboxes/User sci-fi 4.6 Where Poorleno talks. 4.7 Your recent actions have many concerned for your well being 5 Userboxes 5.1 Moving userboxes 6 Templates 6.1 User:Poorleno/tricktemplate 7 Images 8 Subpages 8.1 "Wikiprojects" in your user subspace 8.2 your "Wikiproject Source-to-Short" 9 Categories 10 Post Above Here 11 Deleted redirect

[edit] User talk:PatPeter/Index

• Index of my Subpages

[edit] Wikipages

[edit] Wikiedits

[edit] User talk

[edit] JungleCat's Question

This is somewhat different, being how your talk page is set up, so I will post here:

Hey there – I appreciate your help here, but I am curious, what is WP:StS? It does not exist as per the time of my post here. Just curious… JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 00:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Category:User templates (on my user talk)

Per User talk:CortalYX talking about User:CortalYX, "Your userpage is miscategorized. please take it out of this category," - please note I did not place my userpage within that category, I just filled up my userpage with userboxes... userbox whore that I am... I don't know which userbox template has incorrect syntax, but I don't have enough time to check through at the moment. I have looked through and checked to make sure I was correct before I submitted this, please do the same.~CortalYX 00:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh I don't know if I glean a small amount of sarcasm from that, but being the internet, and with some form of be nice policy I vaguely remember, I thank you for my barnstar, and if I get a chance I will be sure to check through my musician fan user templates to see which one has invalid code =/ yeah and thanks for the heads about the werdnabot, I'm hoping it starts working again soon, I think its something to do with the bot itself.~CortalYX 13:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you (sarcasm)

While you helped to wikify my profile page, (I had temporarily lost internet so I couldn't do any heavy editing), you had turned my loosely ordered page into sheer chaos, the wrong userboxes are strewn across, and several columns even overlap, these several mistakes will take a lot of work to fix, and insulting me on my talk page!? How audacious. Thanks, I guess. Michael Cook 01:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to Your Userpage

All right, let's pretend that I have no clue what you're talking about in regards to categories and templates. I checked for my user name on the template page and it was not there. I'm not going to go through all the user boxes to try and find the category, primarily because I'm not sure what I'm looking for. If you want to change it then have at it. --Cyrus Andiron ^t/_c 18:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Excellent work! No wonder I wasn't able to find it. I suppose my reply was a bit dated as I was on vacation for a week. Thanks for the cleanup, much appreciated. --Cyrus Andiron ^t/_c 14:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Blast san/userboxes/User sci-fi

In reply to your request on my userpage, I would like to remind you to take a look at WP:CIVIL, which you are near to breaking (and seem to have a record of). In addition, I would like to direct you to WP:AGF.

Further, would you care to explain why my (and others') userboxes are so categorised, that I may avoid future miscats?

On a final note, has Category:Political user templates simply evaded standardisation, or are the new 'rules' an unofficial thing? Please reply swiftly. Blast 04.04.07 2341 (UTC)

Simply looking at your talk page and comments on other users' talk pages, it appears that you have a bit of a history of coarseness, hence the reference to WP:CIVIL, as well as a reminder to assume good faith.

Regardless, I would still like an explanation (or a link to one) on when the rules for CG:UT et all changed. As far as I can tell, it's only been you changing things about.

On a final note, I, as with Alison, have not accused you of harming Wikipedia. Blast 05.04.07 0359 (UTC)

[edit] Where Poorleno talks.

Since there is no section for random posts, I put this here. It turns out somebody had a legitimate reason for KO-ing my tricks. Some don't mimic the system policy, i don't know. Check my talk and regular histories to see exactly what. Kind of crazy. Oh well, → p00rleno (lvl 85) ←ROCKS^C_RS 02:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC) <{in love with runescape}>

[edit] Your recent actions have many concerned for your well being

You have left some comments on your userpages that have many editors concerned for your health and well being. Several relevent discussions have been started at WP:ANI and we are all concerned for you. Please do not do anything rash, and know that people are concerned and praying for you. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 05:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Please stop with the suicide talk. This is clearly attention-seeking behaviour. After all, if you really were serious, you would've done it already after having clicked "Save Page". Please seek professional help, therapy, counselling, etc. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not some emo myspace/bulletin board/forum/etc. At the risk of offending, this isn't the place for attention-seeking displays such as this. Skult of Caro (talk) 19:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

[edit] Moving userboxes

Hi PatPeter: just a reminder that if you move userboxes to userspace please use the move tab instead of cutting and pasting the contents. —METS501 (talk) 17:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

[edit] User:Poorleno/tricktemplate

I am quite fumed that you put my silly tricktemplate up for speedy. It's just a harmless joke, and see the template's page to see why your argument is bologna. I don't mean to be mean or "posing as an admin," just to make my page a little more fun. If it has seriously offended you in some way, tell me on my talk page, and I'll pull it from my page. An angry Thank You, → p00rleno (lvl 85) ←ROCKS^C_RS 11:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I will talk to you about this on your page's talk page. -PatPeter 16:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

One: In all actuality, I NEVER put that on anyone's page EXCEPT MINE.

Two: Sorry for forgeting some of your talk page regulations, I was too angry to read most of them.

Three: I meant the real Wikipedia template appears on talk pages of users who were blocked, whereas my template appeared only on my main page, and I am not blocked.

Four: By "Good Faith", I meant it was put there to make things a little more exciting, sort of like hiding in a closet and then jumping out to scare your kid sister who then falls on the floor laughing.

Five: It was sort of annoying that you did not notify me of the CSD, although within a day a friend notified me.

Six: Thank You for copying my paragraph to the right place, even though it made no difference in the outcome.

Seven: I wish for you to understand that I am not trying to pose as an admin. I wish I were an admin, I cannot deny that, see my userboxes, but I must inform you that this accusation is totally false.

Eight: I appreciate your time reading this, although I wish you had informed me of your problem prior to going SD on me, I could have taken care of this without all this hubbub.

Nine: Just curious, what brought you to my page in the first place?

Ten: Cya, and please respond, → p00rleno (lvl 85) ←ROCKS^C_RS 00:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Then let me be the first to say: Hiya Friend, thanks for your explanations, and it was pretty cool of you to admit your faults. I also tend to get a bit hotheadded, so we should be good friends. We have things in common, → p00rleno (lvl 85) ←ROCKS^C_RS 11:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Forget the dumb template, it was, like I said, dumb, and no1 fell for it (the same cannot be said for my new messages template (Oo0o)) → p00rleno (lvl 85) ←ROCKS^C_RS 02:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

[edit] Subpages

[edit] "Wikiprojects" in your user subspace

I've removed the title overrides that made your subpages look like WikiProjects, User:PatPeter/Wikiproject:Source to Short,[1] and User:PatPeter/Wikiproject:Category Cleanup.[2] Why were you using these title overrides? — coelacan — 00:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I have permission to use these title overrides do I not? Do not touch my subpages again you have no permission, if you had asked without being rude I would tell you but otherwise I will not. -PatPeter 00:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean about permission. Did someone tell you to do this? — coelacan — 01:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, since you haven't answered: no, I do not believe you can use category overrides to make your user subspace appear to be a Wikiproject, and it seems to me that if I cannot convince you otherwise, the simplest route would be to nominate these pages for deletion if there is no further response from you. — coelacan — 02:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You said right there that you weren't going to answer me, I asked again at 01:01 for some clarification; you started editing again at 02:09 and didn't answer. I figured it was reasonable to believe that you weren't going to answer, since that's what you said. I asked again and just said if there wasn't any answer I wouldn't know any other route except deletion, and I waited further for your response, which you gave now. At no point did I actually nominate them for deletion, but rather I gave you notice of my intention. I don't think this was rude.

As to the actual matter of the title overrides, you are going around telling people that "per WP:StS" they need to do something, when in fact that redirect goes to your userspace which looks like a Wikiproject. I believe this is extremely misleading, and I believe you need to take down the title overrides so that it is not so misleading, as well as stop telling people to do things per some proposal you have made in your userspace. — coelacan — 03:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it is inappropriate for you to give your user subpages the appearance of Wikipedia project pages- this is highly misleading to users you direct there. On a related matter, I have listed the redirects WP:CGC and WP:StS at RfD. Feel free to contribute to the discussion. WjBscribe 07:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] your "Wikiproject Source-to-Short"

Why are you doing this?[3] What is the purpose of rearranging people's user pages and then telling them they need to keep their pages "short"? — coelacan — 21:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Er, indeed why? And furthermore can you explain Per Wikipedia:Wikiproject Source to Short I have changed your sourced userboxes into subpages. Spurring readon: Your userpage is in Bood fan user templates category. Sounds fascinating and indeed slightly risky. The Boy that time forgot 21:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I think you're using up more space on the servers by leaving those notes everywhere than you're "saving" by putting their userboxes in their subpages. And it's certainly not worth the stress that it causes people when you're acting like they've done something "wrong" and they haven't. It's also unnecessarily bureaucratic, and it amounts to instruction creep. You don't have any grounds for going around leaving these messages which amount to "per my private wikiproject, I have changed your page to suit my preferences", and I kindly request that you stop. — coelacan — 21:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

PatPeter, perhaps for the moment would you consider just removing Category:User templates from people's pages and leave it at that? I agree that this much is helpful. It might be advisable to rework your messages to users, though, and your "Rules" could use a little less WP:BITE. — coelacan — 23:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear PatPeter, I will try to answer your questions but first can I say that I find your approach quite confrontational, reading the comments posted above by coeLacan I find myself agreeing with his sentiments.

Firstly, I was not aware that I had unnessessarily put my userpage in Category:Book fan user templates, that's my fault and I apologise.

Secondly, I wasn't aware that it's not permitted to copy userboxes, didn't know it wastes space and wouldn't know a transclusion if it bit me.

Finally, Why, if these userboxes are your own work, wouldn't they be in subpages so that other users can use them?. I don't know, I really don't know. Some of them are my own work, the others quite patently aren't. I don't know what a subpage is. I shall do my best to be very much more careful in future, userboxes eh, who would've thought it.

Oh yeah, any chance of an explanation for your statement, ''Per Wikipedia:Wikiproject Source to Short I have changed your sourced userboxes into subpages. Spurring readon: Your userpage is in Bood fan user templates category. Particularly the Spurring readon.....bit. Thanks. The Boy that time forgot 22:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I see. If you thought that there was something wrong with my user page maybe it would have been better to let me know, a message on my talk page before editing would have done the trick. I happen to like the way that it was laid out and the only way I can see to get it back is to revert your edits. I understand that you are trying to improve things but I think your approach is unnecessarily confrontational, particularly to those who aren't aufait with the more technical aspects of wikipedia. Could you take the time to explain, in plain language, the reasons behind your userbox related purge? Thanks. The Boy that time forgot 23:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

[edit] Post Above Here

[edit] Deleted redirect

The redirect you created for the IP you edited under has been deleted. It's not appropriate (even during your attention getting stunt) because there's no guarantee that you're the only person who will ever edit under that IP. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 05:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)