User talk:Parammon

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Hi, Parammon, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles of interest to the LGBT community. Some points that may be helpful:

  • Our main aim is to help improve LGBT-related articles, so if someone asks for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able.
  • Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
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If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!

Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 01:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Costard

Thanks for updating the Costard page. I played him once, so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Czolgolz 02:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] move

I have moved Parammon/sexuality-based stereotypes to User:Parammon/sexuality-based stereotypes. Perfectly OK to make working copies but they must have the right titles. -- RHaworth 20:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter!
Issue III - February 1, 2007

Announcement: If someone requests help or feedback on an article, please try your hardest to help them out if you are able. Thank you.

Project News
  • The LGBT Portal has once again been revamped and a work rota started. Efforts towards Featured Portal status are slowly coming together.
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  • The Translation department has changed its focus, to LGBT articles about non-English topics and people on which there may be more information on the relevant foreign Wikipedia. Please add your name if you are fluent in any language other than English.
  • Jumpaclass is picking up slowly, with nine people having entered. With over 2000 stubs we need to improve our article quality. Please sign up and get it going! Challenge another user to see how far you can jump a stub!
  • There is an ongoing discussion about the current LGBT categorisation system here, here, and a little bit here. A special page has now been set up here to deal with this.
  • A Watchlist has been set up to monitor controversial and/or highly vandalised articles. It can also be used for article disputes, just add a note explaining the nature of the dispute.
  • With the influx of so many active members, there is now enough support for a LGBT studies peer review, which may be found here. It's in the beta phase at the moment, so bear with us if we make any mistakes. Feel free to peer review any articles you have been working on.
  • It was agreed this month to start reducing the uses of the Notice board, as many members felt that it was not effective. An open tasks template has been created, bringing together important announcements, FAC/FARs, Peer reviews, XfDs, the COTM, and requested articles. You may desire to watchlist it. A Deletion sorting subpage is also now working to bring together XfDs - this should be bot-driven, but we have not currently tagged enough articles to make this fully automated, so please update the list with any LGBT-related XfDs you come across.
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[edit] The quilt

Thanks for your addition to the quilt. It should have been mentioned before, but only material that is free from copyright should be posted on the quilt. Fair use does not cover use of copyright images other than to illustrates article where no free version is available. As the quilt is just for fun and not an article, only free images can be added, sorry. WJBscribe 23:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, I thought since I own the copyright, I thought I had the right to use it. But I've removed it. Thanks. Parammontalk 23:50, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a difficult time making proper use of self-copyrighted content unless it's under certain licenses. If you can change the licensing of the image, perhaps to the {{cc-by-sa-2.5}} license for instance, then it can be used anywhere on the project. — coelacan talk — 06:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LGBT Coordinator Election Notice

This is just a quick, automated note to let you know that there is an election being conducted over the next 7 days for the position of "Coordinator" for the LGBT WikiProject. Your participation is requested. -- SatyrTN (talk contribs)


[edit] The NAMBLA controversy

Cute though he may be in his user pic, Enzedbrit is obviously an hysteric and not worth getting offended by. If he is uncivil again, give him a warning. By the way, last time I checked, I was also a "decent" member of the LGBT community. Wanting an article properly categorized doesn't imply I embrace the principles espoused in the article. But then, you already knew that, didn't you? :-) Jeffpw 23:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I only removed it to spare you from feeling obligated to reply. Bad timing, though. I don't know. You're certainly welcome to remove both Enzedbrit's insult and your reply, or I will if you want. I am bit perplexed as well so I'm defaulting unless you'd like it gone. coelacan talk — 23:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to Lesbian

Hi, Parammon--I'm the editor who removed the Sprotect banner from Lesbian--I checked the list of protected pages first, however, and I explained to Thuglas why it's not a good idea for regular users to play with those particular banners. Sorry for the confusion. :D Justin Eiler 00:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject newsletter

[edit] Straight acting

I appreciate your work on the article and the edit on the into. I think it needs a little more work, not to beat the word "stereotypical" to death. I will probably edit your edit but please don't take offense, only trying to better the article. And of course feel free to edit mine. How about this...

"Straight acting is a slang term used to describe a gay or bisexual man with the masculine appearance and mannerisms associated with the heterosexual ("straight") male stereotype. It is more rarely used to describe a lesbian with traditionally feminine appearance and mannerisms."

I removed usually because it seemed a little weasely. Thanks! --ParAmmon (cheers thanks a lot!) 19:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions...I guess I solved one problem and created another. 8) It would indeed be nice not to use the word "stereotypically" too many times. I'm not sure "traditionally" is a good replacement, because the attributes associated with "masculine" and "feminine" have changed considerably over time. I used the word "usually" because otherwise there is an apparent contradiction with the rarer female or non-gender-specific usage...perhaps there's another way to say it. -- Beland 19:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I think the second sentence qualifies the first enough with 'rarely' so that it does not make the intro contradictory but I'll work on it. I'll change the traditional baqck to sterotypical.--ParAmmon (cheers thanks a lot!) 04:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm beginning to think a version closer to the one at the merge but abbreviated, is better .

"Straight acting is a slang term used to describe a gay or bisexual man (or, rarely, a lesbian), having the appearance, mannerisms , etc., of a stereotypical heterosexual ("straight") of the same sex."

--ParAmmon (cheers thanks a lot!) 05:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"Straight acting is a slang term used to describe a person who does not exhibit stereotypically gay appearance, or mannerisms. Although the label is used by and reserved almost exclusively for gay and bisexual men, it is may also be used to describe a lesbian with stereotypically feminine appearance and mannerisms." --ParAmmon (cheers thanks a lot!) 07:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] banner wording

"Scope" is accurate but it bothers Dev's synesthesia, so it might be worthwhle to work around that. Maybe ave another read through WP:LGBT#Wording of project banner and comment on whether any of the other suggestions are workable? coelacan — 19:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, added my OTHER two cents.--ParAmmon (cheers thanks a lot!) 06:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update to position statement for RFC at Talk:Girl-girl

I just wanted to let you know that I have modified my initial suggestion to where Girl-girl should redirect: as "girl-girl" is a term used only to refer to a certain genre of pornography, Girl-girl should redirect to List of pornographic sub-genres#Lesbian pornography. Your input would be appreciated at Talk:Girl-girl. Thank you. Joie de Vivre 23:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)