Talk:Parasuicide

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[edit] Dubious

Should DSH really be called "suicide attempts"? Such strong statements definitely need citations.. --Kiwibird 20:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

See Suicide Section Suicide 7 and Suicide 7.1 for a better explanation of the differences between DSH (deliberate self-harm) and Parasuicide (suicide attempt).


"An important distinction has also been made (see Erwin Stengel, 'Suicide and Attempted Suicide') between those who kill themselves and did not mean to, and those who did not kill themselves but did mean to. Thus a 'Suicide' (noun) may either succeed or fail in his/her goal (i.e. succeed in killing himself/herself or not) and an 'Attempted Suicide' (noun) may either succeed or fail in his/her goal (e.g., succeed in 'making a cry for help' or fail and, in doing so, probably die)."

The writer cites Stengel in the article, but does not include it in the reference section. A quick search found the following info about Erwin Stengel Suicide & Attempted Suicide. 1964. Harmondsworth: Penguin Books Ltd., 1966.

Since I did not write the article and have no knowledge of Stengal's work, I don't feel comfortable adding it the reference section.

Clairemkelly 04:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)I work in the areas of suicide, deliberate self-injury and attempted suicide and the term parasuicide is of no value. It is a term which is used to denote any kind of self-injurious behaviour regardless of intention and as such has no real value in psychological terminology.

In this article I believe that "suicide attempt" is a better title. Deliberate self-harm is a term which should be avoided, using instead self-injury or suicide attempt. Use of non-specific terms are not helpful in any way, particularly when a topic is as poorly understood as this one is.

[edit] NPOV?

I agree with the above criticism and would add a question about POV. It seems that this article asserts hypotheses about the nature of the behavior without offering opposing viewpoints (i.e. the article rejects the possibility of attempted suicides' actually being suicide and merely states that they are acts of deliberate self-harm without evidence thereof). Aleta 06:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Aleta

[edit] Parasuicide is more of a histoirical term now

Parasuicide was used in mental health but was phased out in the 1990s as the idea was artificial - there is often no clearcut nboundary between hih risk and low risk attempts and many people who exhibit low risk can infact end up killing themselves.

Dismissing attempts of low perceived lethality is dangerous. In reality all attempts are care-eliciting gestures fo some sort. cheers Cas Liber 20:54, 30 December 2006 (UTC)