Talk:Paradise Lost (band)
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[edit] Not popular in the UK?
I'd disagree with this, but my only evidence is really anecdotal based on folks I know from the UK in the metal scene. Any UK folks have some real info to back me up or shoot me down on this one? 68.233.12.105 05:36, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- Only people i know into Paradise Lost are 'Goths'. Thats it, period. Leyasu 10:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- They have pretty much no mass-market popularity in the UK, whereas they do in Germany and other countries. Yes, they have support -within the metal scene- but not on the mass market. --Kiand 20:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
They packed out the tent at Download in 2005 at Donington Park. They are legendary in the British metal scene.
- Which isn't mass market, or anything close. A #16 and #31 album is their chart record in the UK to date. Although I doubt this matters much to them, or their fans; it does show how mass market popular a band is. --Kiand 01:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
This is really strange - Paradis Lost aren't popular over here in the UK? You could have fooled me - I've got all there albums and pretty much everyone I associate with has heard of them.... oh wait of course, now I get it! They have never been shown on MTV in the UK during a Britney special so therefore they cannot be popular right? Waffle247 15:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Genre?
Theres four genres listed ATM - Doom Metal, Death Metal, Goth, New Romantic. The first three are accurate, the last one is, err, not.
However, the last album could even be called Nu Metal. They change so often that its hard to fence them in on one genre. Should there be a limitation on how many genres are listed? Kiand 18:43, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Link
One Second is linked to Yello's album with the same name. It has to be fixed. But how?
[edit] Change of vocal styles
Why do you say that Draconian Times is when the vocals changed? They obviously changed on Shades Of God to a Hetfield style. Unless there's some mass objection I'm going to revise that.
[edit] Genre
Whilst PL's original sound was most certainly in the doom/grindcore mould, their sound has continued to evolve and defies easy categorisation, principally due the employment of a more "electro-sound" since the controvertial "One Second" album. When pressed on the matter, lead singer Nick Holmes describes it as "Dark Rock"
[edit] evolvement and career
Mention should be made of the success that PL have had. Their first single "As I Die", from their third album "Shades of God" was hughely successful in mainland Europe.
The fourth album "Icon" further defined the band, and built on the success of the "As I Die" single.
The fifth album, "Draconian Times" is seen very much as a more polished version of "Icon", but ran into some controversy when a Charles Manson quote was used on the album version of "Forever Failure" - though this quotation was not used on the single version. Alegedley, Amnesty International became involved when the promotional video of "Forever Failure" appeared to depict lead singer Nick Holmes being buried alived by his band mates.
The sixth album "One Second" saw a massive departure in sound, and the loss of a section of their fan base, as their sound started to incorporate synthesiser elements. This led to Kerrang! Magazine dubbing them "Sisters of the Depeche Lost" (a reference to the Sisters of Mercy track "Walk Away" that PL had covered, and to Depeche Mode who were generating a more guitar orientated sound at around the same time with their album "Ultra"). There was also some controversy over the song "Another Day" was revealed to be about the Dunblaine Massacre.
Excluding "Reflection" (effectively a Best-Of-To-Date released by Music for Nations), the seventh studio album was "Host" and further explored the synthesiser sounds, as well as demonstrating a sombre and slower tone as the the lead singer and song writer struggled with the birth of his first child and his fathers death.
The eighth studio album was "Believe in Nothing", and saw a return to the rockier/heavier sounds of previous albums, but did not achieve the commerical success that was expected.
The ninth studio album was "Symbol of Life", and faired better than "Believe in Nothing", due in no small part to a widely acclaimed cover of "Small Town Boy", which appeared as a bonus track on the digipak version.
The tenth studio album, "Paradise Lost", appeared to blend the heavy metal roots of the past, with more commercial friendly electro sounds. This has led to some parts of the media, noticable Metal Hammer and Kerrang! once again championing the band leading to hopes of a further revival in fortune.
[edit] doom/death metal?
«Paradise Lost are a heavy metal band formed in 1988 in Halifax, UK. Along with countrymates Anathema and My Dying Bride, they are credited for creating the subgenre known as "doom/death" metal.» I don't know Paradise Lost, but you're quite high if you say anathema is doom/death metal.portugal 03:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
