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[edit] EMO????

where are you people getting emo from??? panic! at the disco aren't emo!!!!!Chriscool334 00:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

1. Yes they are emo. They're a totally trendy band that won't make it past another 10 years, I bet. Hair metal, grunge, industrial metal, nu metal... These are all trends that have come and gone, and emo will join the list someday. 2. Panic at the Disco are obviously sexist bastartds. What else can you infer about a group that makes a song called "Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking off her clothes?" 3. Listen to bands that are actually saying something and aren't just trendy models that probably have their songs written by someone else. A few examples of TRUE artists: Led Zeppelin, Motorhead, Marilyn Manson, Slayer, Rob Zombie, ZZ Top.

I agree they are damm emo. In fact I was gonna change it cuz it`s simply ridiculous that they where like yesterday as Rock/Pop. Garbage is rock pop (well more rock but wtf), this is that emo **ap again. and another thing: this article should be protected--ometzit<col> 21:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)--
The emo vandalism is really almost as tedious as the homophobic vandalism, and I'm wondering if they're related somehow. The article should simple reflect that they are considered emo by some critics and fans, and that they don't like the label (in my view using the pretty sensible argument that people don't agree on what that means) and other fans don't like the label either. In any case, not that the vandals care, but the issue is not whether one or another reader think this (or any other) group belongs to a particular genre or style or whether a reader likes the group. mnewmanqc 00:02, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok I agree with that, but then i`ll ask for a link when they openly say that they dont like being emo. I think they are emo not cuz of the i`llkillmyselflyrics, which it isn`t in the 2 songs that I have. they are emo cuz of the clothes they use (both in real nd in the videos) the hair in general they actitude. But in any case if there isn´t that link, we should leave them as emos--ometzit<col> 00:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll add it to the article. [[1]]. mnewmanqc 00:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Well that solves the issue. As a personal note I really don`t give a damm if they don`t like being called emo, they are damm emo`s. but wtf they are not emo, and i know someone will cut their veins if they are called emo xD--ometzit<col> 01:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
See? someone just complain about the emo thing lol--ometzit<col> 01:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

If they don't want to be called emo, they should stop playing emo music? Simple as that. Since they sound exactly like My chemical romance, my american heart, fall out boy, afi, rise against, glass jaw, hot water music, the used, and every other screamo crap rock band they are unoriginal. They are alternative rock I guess, but emo has been established and this junk falls into it's category.

Panic! at the Disco are not emo. It's not even arguable. Emo is Emotive Hardcore which originated in the mid 80's with bands like Rites of Spring, Gray Matter, Embrace, One Last Wish, and Moss Icon. Emo is a sub-genre of hardcore punk. Panic! at the Disco is nowhere close to hardcore punk. The only people who would disagree don't know shit about the genre and should stop spreading their ignorance. The genre on the article should be changed, it is clear that P!ATD is not emo. Get your fact straight.

OK, well ifthey aren't emo, doesn't make them good.

Panic! is not emo.

If anything at all, Panic! actually discourages being emo in the stereotypical sense (ie, cutting, bitching, fake depression, etc.). Heck, in the same song that this is in they even bring Christianity into it.

From "I Constantly Thank God For Esteban":

We've got: the gunslinger extraordinare [vs. the] walking contradiction[s] Because I for one can see no blood from their hearts or the wrists you [they in the ablum sheet] allegedly slit And I for one won't stand for this If the scene were a parish you'd all be condemned


Now I already know where this may head, but before you blast me, look at the facts. This is the only reference to emoism that I could find on the entire album, and it's negative towards it. Their behavior from what I've seen also reflects a non-emo stand.

In closing, say what you will about Panic! At The Disco and emoism, but it's just not there. ToyoWolf 22:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

SO WHAT? They just have a significant Pop influence in their sound, not all bands of a genre sound the same.

I think that PATD's music is emo, but not them. They are not emo, only their music is.--989 RVD 22:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PATD/Dresden Doll Video

Anyone want to post the Dresden Doll/Panic video that got about 700,000 views before it was pulled from youtube by panic's record label? It was repost on youtube at http://youtube.com/watch?v=vY2WLMf0F_c and now has about 30,000 more views. More info is at the Dresden Doll wiki site. The old video was at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewqkF_lzqRQ and was removed, saying "This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Roadrunner Records because its content was used without permission."

This falls clearly outside of what is supported by copyrighted links from Wikipedia to external sources. This should not be linked.Hackajar 11:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name Capitalization

According to the band's website and iTunes Music Store, the band's name is Panic! At the Disco, not Panic! at the Disco as it is now. Someone wanna rename the page and fix the article to match? 216.175.112.139 06:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

  • This has been brought up MANY times. There was even a move war assoc with this. This is a wiki thing, not a band thing.Hackajar 01:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, look at the bell hooks article, by your logic it should be Bell Hooks... J0ggl3 21:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


First of all, there is nothing wrong with the grammar to my eye, there are plenty of cited sources in the article itself, and the article is indeed neutral. Maybe if you'd become a registered user and get your feet wet doing some editing on some other articles, your opinion would have some "weight" to it. However, given both your own grammatical errors and your anonymous ststus, I will ignore this "suggestion" for the time being. The article is locked to new and unregistered users because of a steady stream of vandalism being done to the article. --CJ Marsicano 16:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to hear some arguments for the non-capitalization of the "at". Because as far as I know, it is officially capitalized as "Panic! At The Disco". That is how it appears on the label page and ID3 databases as well. Kame2000 12:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You're all idiots. It should all be capitalised. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Patriarch (talk • contribs) 11:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC).
And also, this is an encyclopedia. It has been said above that the lack of change was associated to it being "a 'wiki' thing". What? A proper encyclopedia does not rely upon itself for each individual article. That would be ridiculous. An encyclopedia aims to be as factually correct as possible. And if the fact is that the band was named, promoted, and sold as "Panic! At The Disco", and not "Panic! at the Disco", then it is obvious to me that "Panic! At The Disco" is the factually correct name. -Kame2000 20:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Channel One Interview

I know for a fact Channel One News held an interview with Panic! on september 21 (today, actually), but I don't know where that should go in the article or if it should even be mentioned. I have no real sources to back it up other than i was watching it at my school. --Wikiwow 21:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Band's Philosophy Section

can there be a section created to outline the band's underlying message or philosophy? a lot of it is speculative, but i think i'm not alone in saying that its something that should be discussed. Robbie 21:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

This'd probably go in the album page for A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. since it is their only album and underlining message/philosophy/otherwise may be different on their next album. Kame2000 12:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-existent Categories

Just a note: o.O someone put in the category section two non-existent categories, so I removed them. If anyone knows who did this, um... Why? XD;;; It just seems, you know, pointless and inane, so I'm curious.

[edit] Artist Infobox

Somebody removed the unused sections on the infobox, which destroyed it. I would put back what was in place, but I cannot edit from this IP, if someone could fix this, it'd be great. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Diehard2k5 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Palahniuk

Is it worth mentioning somewhere in this article the band's pre-occupation with Chuck Palahniuk? Many of their songs are either named after or contain quotes from his works, and their only album is a Palahniuk quote. Satchfan 05:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree on this, a lot of themes parallel his works. Robbie 21:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

i'd go so far as to say they stole entire lines. lame.xx little anna 18:17, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Stealing would involve palming off his lines as their own, which they don't do. What they're doing is quoting. Lots of poets and songwriters do it, including classic ones. So it's only lame if you don't like Palahniuk. BTW, why are so many haters devoted readers (vandalizers) of this page? Something about this band really gets at certain types of people, which considering those types, gives them more creds in my eyes. mnewmanqc 01:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

but he's suing them, you can't just quote anyone you want. xx little anna 00:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hate speech removed

Subject says it all. If you don't like or respect the band, don't even read their article, let alone edit it or write bullshit here. Anyone that has a problem with that and is willing to be adult about it, I'm not hard to get in touch with. --CJ Marsicano 05:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

But to only leave in the fans perspective is just as unencyclopedic. Like, in the article, it has a section called indie success and another with the words public acceptance. They were never really that succesful as 12 year olds playing pop punk. Public Acceptance? Where is that coming from. If the public is exclusively 12 year old girls, than yes, they are accepted publicly. But yeah, hate speeches have no place on wikipedia.71.202.214.177 05:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] slightly wrong... can someone change it considering that i cant...

"It's like some people don't even realize we have a whole album of incredible hardcore mood metal. 'I Write Sins Not Tragedies' isn't the only [song] we've written."

wasnt it "whole album of songs"... coz i HIGHLY doubt brendan urie would say that

MOOD METAL? This band is the exact opposite of metal the music in here is so soft why would you even call it metal thats probably the worst label ive heard to date.

They've sold 1,333,121 million copies of A Fever You Can't Sweat Out now,can someone change that?

[edit] Question

Didn't they write other songs like Camisido and Time To Dance? I can't seem to find articles on here about them. (The songs) Just curious. 69.245.103.98 19:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes they have - There's links to the album and the singles they've released from the album, which would be the most relevant songs from said album, in the main article. You could always sign up here at Wikipedia, and create the articles on "Camisodo" and "Time To Dance" if you could find enough info on them. Since those are just album tracks which have not had much exposure, though, those could just as easily be additions to the article on A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, but redirect links could always be made to the album article or those subsections thereof. --CJ Marsicano 21:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Shouldn't the page be labeled that it's protected? Sakura Avalon 02:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an admin., but this page is not vandalised nearly enough to be protected. Pages that become protected are typically vandalised at least a few times everyday. This page is not.Spuddy 17 03:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
On the contrary, this page has been vandalized on a ridiculously regular basis - mostly from people posting homophobic slurs on the (all straight) band members. --CJ Marsicano 15:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
How do you know they're all straight? There are certainly economic reasons for any of them not to come out as gay, and this is something people lie about all the time. mnewmanqc 19:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Nothing justifies posting those kind of remarks on what is supposed to be an unbiased, encylopedic article. Sorry to break the news to you. --CJ Marsicano 14:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
If CJ's remark was meant for me, I was not trying to justify vandalism or homophobia. I'm gay myself. My point was simply to question the assertion that particular band members are straight. If the claim is based on knowledge of their lives, fine. It's just their whole style is very sophisticated intelligent high camp without falling into camp cliches, and they seem influenced by gay artists. That's what I like about them, and I think that's what a lot of non-fans either don't get and what provokes the homophobic reactions. So basically, I'm on your side. I'm just a bit suspicious about assertions of heterosexuality of celebs. mnewmanqc 03:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Newman, I was speaking in general, to be perfectly honest - that wasn't directed solely at you. Sorry if you thought that was. Thanks for the input. I'm straight and I've had the "faggot" ephitet thrown at me since 6th grade (I'm 39 now) - it's just ignorant juvenile bullshit and it really fucking turns my stomach. --CJ Marsicano 03:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Cool. I agree the content of the vandalism was familiar enough from my hs years too. Things are getting better in this regard, but this kind of shit just goes to show how slowly. I suspect a good portion is done by self-hating closet cases.mnewmanqc 13:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
There are not enough revert to put a vandal block on site. Also, they look at how well article is reverted by wikipedian's "watching" article. If there is enough to do reverts, they will not waste time with instituting a block.Hackajar 02:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
A vandal block was put on this several weeks ago to deflect the constant string of vandalism done to this article, and it was recommended by the admin that the block remain indefinitely. I am the one that requested the block because the vandalism was getting way out of hand and had resumed with a vengance after the previous block was removed. --CJ Marsicano 14:55, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
More vandalism...that annoys me so much. MJB12 23:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
You and me both, chief - only it grosses me out. Pass the Pepto. --CJ Marsicano 03:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Removing end of "Trivia" section. Last entry is not appropriate for the "Trivia" section and is composed of homophobic slurs comparing Panic! and Fall Out Boy. Also contains unsubstantiated rumors of signing a contract in blood obtained as a result of self-mutilation.Freedomlinux 05:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for spotting and removing it. It looks like a case of vandalism. --TeaDrinker 05:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are PATD...

...Really "Alternative rock"? They sound similar to a lot of bands and I hate to see the term alternative get so overused.

alternative means anything not mainstream. pretty broad. Robbie 07:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Alternative Rock is a misused term. Altrock can really describe some of the underground bands during the 80s like the Pixies and popular bands of the early 90s like Nirvana. Pearl Jam is a great example of an alternative rock band thats still around and their sound is nothing like Panic's.

[edit] Not Emo

Hay! Panic! At the disco is not emo!!! They are alternative rock. Brendon Urie (The lead singer) said he was sick of people labelling them as emo.They do not write depressing songs about killing themselves and dying. They write of heart break! So change the thing on thwe page and get your facts right!!

I love Panic! At the disco Thanx



I will agree with you that P!ATD is not emo, but "depressing songs about killing themselves and dying" does not define you as emo. Emo is a complete genre. Emo is defined just as you would define Metal or Jazz, by the complete sound and style of the music. Lyrics are a small part of this equation. In fact, while depressing lyrics about a multitude of subjects, including but not limited to your mention of heartbreak, may be heavily used in more recent emo (90's), lyrics about killing yourself has never been prevalent, if any.

also FYI, saying "killing yourself and dying" is redundant. Killing implies death.Iii9ix3 06:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with the article- Panic! is not electronica or pop punk, and I think they'd be a bit shocked if they saw that. Really, they are a bit emo and definitely rock, if not alternative rock. If no one replies in the next few days, I'll change it as the source does not agree- it did not say that Panic! was a mixture of pop-punk, electronica and dance, it said "these young rockers play a high-energy set of their emo-styled punk". They also play rock, and the only dance song I know of from them is the start of Intermission. CattleGirl talk | e@ | review me! 04:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Signed, I agree. Panic! is definately an emo band. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Litanss (talk • contribs) 10:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC).


Oh seriously, there is a lot of dance sections in P!ATD's album. Does that change the genre though?

They're not pop-punk at all. Green Day is pop punk and to even consider calling this band punk is just out of the question. Calling them punk is basically putting them in the same broad genre as the Clash and the Ramones who are not even close to the same as Panic!. Emo/Electronica is a much better label.

Dude, I think they are not Emo. I think they are Big Beat and Techno with Alternative rock. It says on their Myspace page. User:Emile hsu 7:33, 29 November.

Someone PLEASE explain to me how this band is Emo in any way. Emo is Emotional hardcore. There is no way on Earth P!ATD is hardcore...And lately, Emo has been associated with emotional and/or self-hating/suicidal lyrics... I don't see any of that on "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out". They are obviously Pop-Punk with a wide range of influences and sub-genres such as dance, electronica, and alternative rock. They have much in common with blink-182 and attitude-wise, Green Day too; their dealing of usually dramatic situations with humour and ridicule puts them in the very same category as other Pop-Punk bands. I don't see how there can even be a discussion on P!ATD's genre, honestly. Bands like Alexisonfire and Chiodos are emo. Not Panic! At The Disco <_< -Phil

Hi Phil,

I think when people refer to them as emo it's because of the vocals. If you go and check out a lot of other bands that are labeled emo, they all have that really whiney blink 182 sounding vocals like PATD does. So that's just it, for some reason just because the vocals sound exactly the same as Fall out boy and taking back sunday (to list 2 out of 1000's of bands) they just label it under 1 category. I think it's unfair because they use different instruments to spice up the generic form they use, but since the vocals sound the same it sort of is emo I guess. I hope that helps.

These guys would be refered to more accurately as pop punk. They are definitely not punk or emo, though they do sound like MCR(not emo). Their Blink 182-esque vocals and the topics of their songs are very pop-punk.

They have a dance and pop influence to their Emo sound, that's all.

Quite on the contrary, Taking Back Sunday, Fall Out Boy, blink-182 and Panic! don't have similar vocals at all (I'm very sensitive to noticing such things, and I don't see how anyone could call the bands similar at all) and people often refer to them as such because of the lyrics, not the singing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.84.38.102 (talk) 03:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree with the above statement, partially. People tend to lump all those bands, and others like them together, saying they all sound alike. Personally, I don't agree, because they don't all sound alike. I think they're all called emo because (for the most part) they dress 'emo' and because I'm a Panic! fan but I like those other bands. Those bands sound different but have the same fans, who are mainly emo or scene. So, I think that's why music is labeled "emo" now, because of the fans it attracts.

[edit] Does emo have to be a bad thing?

Some people of the world WOULD classify PATD as emo. Deleting any information in this article about PATD being emo, just because you don't think they are, is insecure and destructive. A lot of people like emo music, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Just because someone likes emo music, doesn't mean they are emo!! Fall Out Boy is emo music, and so is All American Rejects. You have probably listened to them before, so don't judge PATD about being emo when you've listened to it before.When Pink Pigs Fly! 22:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC) (stuff in bold) I find PATD to relate a lot to My Chemical Romance, who have had a reputation of being an emo band for as long as I can remember. Please don't delete information from wikipedia, thanks.

Litanss 12:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


My chemical romance have been labelled emo and they, like PATD, also dont want to be labelled as emo.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with Emo bands, but there is something wrong with labelling a band that is obviously Pop rock/ Pop-punk as emo. The term emo implies emotion, and recently suicidal or depressing lyrics. Panic! not only maintains an uplifting, high-spirited mood, but also often write songs devoid of emotion or even ridiculing emotion or at least ridiculing drama. Panic! themselves have made many bitter remarks about their being labelled as emo... Nowadays, any band with long hair/bangs is automatically considered emo... As She Cries 18:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

oh my god P!ATD is emo. Emo bands do not have a theme for an international tour of the circus. I went to their concert in Denver and the stage was a giant circus tent iif that is emo than puppies and kittens are to. Emo bands write about how their lives suck, or how nobody loves them as well as death. P!ATD writes about death. THEY ARE EMO!!!! Emo bands also can have a good sound. More often than not, pop punk will sound shitty. The only exception I can think of is Zolof the Rock and Roll Destroyer. On the other side, emo can actually sound great. Chiodos is one of my favorite bands right now. These guys are not emo, and neither is MCR. I think we actually need a new name for MCR, like pop-emo or something.71.202.214.177 05:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Fever You Can't Sweat Out -> "Introduction"

Have you heard a sentence in Polish in the "Introduction"? It's starts at (about) 17th second of the tune. --Mataga 10:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, apparently it says "Spotkało się szerokim odgłosem", which means something along the lines of "It was met with great enthusiasm" or "It was met with a large outcry". It's what I read somewhere anyway... Cruj 19:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Cruj

[edit] Panic! did not contact Pete through LiveJournal

Ryan Ross use to be on the old Fall out boy boards and he use to post Panic!'s two demos. Pete found them. The rest is history. They only say they posted in his livejournal for he wont be embarrassed.


Uh-huh... and you know this how? DrowningInRoyalty

In the interview on the DVD in the "Collector's Box", it says that they posted the link to their Pure Volume site on Fall Out Boy's LiveJournal, and Pete Wentz saw it, they didn't contact Pete Wentz directly.

[edit] I Write Sins Not Tragedies

That video looks like a deleted sence from A clockwork orange.

This page is for discussing the article, not the band. If you wanna talk about them, talk on your userpage or on a forum. DrowningInRoyalty

Just because they said they did that doesn't mean it is true. Anyone can lie. I use to go on the (old) fall out boy boards were he use to post. I wish had some proof but I don't. But you can tell that they are lying because they say livejournal then they switch it to purevolume.

[edit] The Reading Event...

The Article states

"During PATD's opening song on August 25, 2006 at the Carling Weekend: Reading Festival, an unknown audience member threw a bottle at the stage, which struck and temporarily knocked out Brendon Urie, forcing the band to stop playing. After some minutes, he got back up and shouted to the crowd, "You can’t take me out! Let's see how well you guys do with my left side," and continued with the same song.[6]"

Thats lies... Brenden was down on the floor for ages then threw a hissy fit and stomped off only to be brought back on by other band members... ^^ that is just P!ATD fans glorifing a truely embrassing moment in the bands history... needs changing

RuSTy1989

Wrong. I know someone who was there and I've seen videos and pictures; it hit him, he was down for a few minutes, and he got right back up. Stop spamming up the page with rumors.
Actually, from what I know about the incident, he was down for about ten minutes, got up, shouted out to the crowd and kept going. For the moment, I think we should keep the article as is and if we find a number of relible sources that say otherwise, we change it. Remember, we need to back it up. CattleGirl talk | e@ | review me! 02:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. My cousin was there and the events he mentioned did coincide with the article. If you don't like them, then how do you really know anything about them? I mean, I don't remember people specifically looking up bands they don't like. I mean, maybe I'm wrong and you did go or read a lot about it (which I highly doubt), but if so, provide us a citation. DrowningInRoyalty

he faked the whole thing. the bottle hit him in the shoulder, not enough to take someone down. also the fact that he was still singing on the way down and still singing on the floor then he stopped... then as stated he had a fit stormed off and had to be brought back on, the pussy is trying to cover up a obiously faked stunt. the fact is hes a coward who cant take it like a man

[edit] Build God, Then We'll Talk

Does anybody know when this single is coming out? Because there last few singles failed in the US, solely because "I Write Sins" was such a monster hit, this may be their next Top 40 hit...if it's released. Doc Strange 13:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC) Build God is probably the best song that PATD made! Well, that's just my opinion. The meaning of this song is about a girl cheating on her boyfriend with another boy just for his money. The part of the song " Raindrops on Roses, and girls in white dresses, and sleeping with roaches, and taking best guessing" refers to the song "My Favortie Things" from the sound of music. That part of the song gets stuck in my head alot! I really recommend this song! WhenPinkPigsFly 18:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pet Salamander

The beginnings of the band is wrong in the main article. Brent Wilson and Ryan Ross knew each other from high school, and Ryan knew Spencer Smith from his neighborhood. The three of them formed a band called Pet Salamander together, and started out covering Blink 182 songs. The band WAS NOT started by only Ryan and Spencer. Brent WAS NOT recruited, but an original member of the band. Brent transferred high schools where he met Brendan Urie in a music class. Had Brent never transferred high schools, Panic! at the Disco may have never gotten as popular as they are now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tadow3015 (talk • contribs) 05:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Genre

There's been a lot of discussion all over the place about what genre Panic! is. How about this: If we find a solid source stating the genre (solid= preferably not MySpace or YouTube, but actual, trusted music review websites.) put it in and list the source in 'External Links'- however everyone has different opinions on the genre, so discuss that here, and then change if required. CattleGirl talk | e@ 06:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

BIG BEAT???? THEIR MUSIC IS THE MOST HORRIBLE I HAVE EVER HEARD. Sure it applies to the chemical brothers, fatboy slim and the prodigy, but not Panic! at the disco. that's a disgrace
Agreed... definitely not big beat and techno. Definitely alternative cock, however. I'm going to find some sources... CattleGirl talk | e@ | sign! 05:32, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
And I changed it to alternative, indie and dance. Although I think they're more emo than dance, emo's been reverted too many times to count... the genre makes it match up with the article and the source, as well. CattleGirl talk | e@ | sign! 05:43, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New album?

I searched up Panic! at the Disco, and this is what I found. Is this new stuff or old? If it is old, sorry. If new, however, what do we do with this piece of info? In the URL it indicate that it's a "reissue", and thus it is probably a rehash of something that we should have had here. Anyway, there the link is... A bit late but to any readers, Seasons Greets from Qwerty 16:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC) Um, never mind, I guess. Why? Well, this informs us all. So, what can we add, then? That Panic! at the Disco is to cover some tracks from the original The Nightmare Before Christmas soundtrack?--Qwerty 16:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Theory of Band's name, and an earlier band name

Suggest to editors to rephrase the "theory" of the origin of the band's name?

Ryan Ross has stated that that they were deciding between either the Name Taken line 'Panic at the disco' or the line 'Burn down the disco' from the Smiths' song 'Panic', but went with the Name Taken line in the end. Therefore, it is not 'theory', but 'fact'. (example source: [2] ) Nor is this the only reference that mentions this. I think it should be changed because a Wiki article ought to be able to clearly state the facts if they are known.

Also, there is a Rolling Stones article from Nov 2005 that states their previous name was 'Summer League'. Has anyone else heard this? If so, should it be added to the page? --Billy Tallent 16:51, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


Yes, Spencer, Brent, and Ryan used to be in Pet Salamander, but then the name was changed to the Summer League, and then it was Panic! At The Disco.

[edit] "Ryan's Lie"?

In full respect to the new topic on the article, "Ryan's Lie," is it really a lie? The band has been around for a while, just not on the mainstream level. They were a normal local band before all this, right?

Just some input.

--Ouin 17:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

It's certainly important to note the confusion regarding the time that PATD was formed, but I think "Ryan's Lie" is a mildly pejorative and rather blunt way to put it. The band could've been formed in early 2004, before or after brendon's joining, and interviews that say the band was formed in 2005 may be in refernce to when they were signed and became a real band, rather than a basic garage band. Either way, Ryan wasn't necessarily lying and a more fitting title may be a good idea.

[edit] Emo

This band has emo lyrics, that should be stated somewhere in the article, I would add it myself but I'm probably going to get RV by some sensitive fan.

Punk-Pop Punk Revival Emo

Are SUGGESTED STYLES from allguide.com

The term "emo" is thrown around so loosly and it's become a label that bands and other people see to be offended by, I don't think that it's necessary to state that in the article, especially since "emo" has no real definition in the first place.

[edit] Former Band Members Section?

Do any of you think that someone should add a section specifically for "Former Members" and then talk about the controversy involving whether the bass lines in the album were actually his or not? I don't like the fact that it's just bunched in with the current members with no explaination on the dismissal.Jgrizzy89 23:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject proposal

I've proposed a Panic! at the Disco Wikiproject here, to see how many people would be interested before starting one. The project would be an effort by a group of Wikipedians to build and improve all Panic! at the Disco pages (including members of the band, songs and albums). If you think that you'd be reguarly editing these pages, please put your name down at this page so we can see who would be interested in the project. Thanks in advance- CattleGirl talk | sign! 11:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

many people believe that the band members may be homosexuals but as they said in one of there interviews on absoluterock they said they confirmed "none of the band members are gay not that theres anything wrong with it"-ryan ross

[edit] "emo"

Wouldn't things just be alot easier if people could all just agree on Panic! being emo? "Emo" is basically this generation's "grunge". Sure, the bands may not sound very similar to each other at all, but did Nirvana sound similar to Pearl Jam? No, not really. So just because Panic! and say, My Chemical Romance might not sound exactly similar that doesn't mean they can't be the same genre. And guess what- just because "emo" bands hate being called that doesn't mean anything. "Grunge" bands hated being called grunge too.

And there definetly IS an emo sound. There's definetly a particular vocal style, lyrical style, and attitude that emo bands have.

Agreed, Panic! is an emo band, but many fans here seem to have a problem with that. Litanss
A lot of people get really sensitive about things they like being labelled emo, I think it's just because the stereotypical emo isn't really something that a lot of people want to be associated with. I agree that the vocal style especially is emo, and the way they look is also associated with emo- not all songs, but some songs of theirs have 'emo-ish' lyrics, too. I'm fine with the genre being changed, it's just a matter of fans researching them here and becoming offended- instead of discussing it here, it's going to be changed back a lot. However, on the page it's set as emo and alternative rock, which is perfect. CattleGirl talk | sign! 07:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

They look emo too59.101.51.74 06:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

A lot of people here agree with you and other don´t (specially those who r fans) nd there was a edit war about it but there is a reference when they call the emo thing "bullshit" so if they don´t like it better leave it as it is (i think punk rock or something like that). I do think that they are emo, and their fans are emo too but we are based on sources so yeah--ometzit<col> 13:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

They are not emo. Emo is Emotive Hardcore such a Rites of Spring and Gray Matter. Panic! at the disco is no where close ti emo. Don't lable bands with a genre you know nothing about.

[edit] Early 2007 album

It says their new album will be ready for compalation in early 2007, that's not true in Rolling Stone Ryan says He plans to write/ record the album during the summer of 2007 and release it during the fall of 2007. I would add it but i've never done anything like that before so I figured i'd just put it in here. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/panic_at_the_disco_high_school_musical?source=panicatthedisco_rssfeed That's the link to the rolling stone thing by the way.

[edit] Panic and FOB..... together?

      I've been liking Fall Out Boy and Panic since last June. I heard that Pete(Wentz) and Brendon Eurie are switching roles( if you know what I mean). If the rumor is true, it would be very nice to hear Pete sing for P!ATD and Brendon play bass for FOB.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leabolante (talk • contribs) 08:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Template issues

As part of the general vandalism going on around these pages tonight, it appears that somebody has altered the template at the bottom of the page so that "jwalk is teh sex" or something like that appears above the navigational template. As a result, every single article related to the band has this message on it. I don't know anything about templates, so I don't know how to fix the problem. Could somebody more experienced take a look at this? janejellyroll 05:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Not Fair!!!!!

On YouTube.com I'm getting 100 messages saying "stop your chrush on Ryan Ross because he is Gay!!!" If you sent me this I would lock your doors and windows at night!!! Many of my friends say he is paid to kiss Brendon and the rest of the band! Is he? I would love to know he is not Gay (and has no girlfriend) or married because if he is ........... well I'll ..................... OK I have no clue what I'll do ............ I'll figure it out later :(


                          -- Until I join I'm
                                     Classic*Casie

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.164.242.138 (talk) 16:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU HE IS GAY. CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO OF HIM MAKING OUT WITH JOSH MCDERMOTT. WWW>YOUTUBE>COM/24087450502093

hey I want to see that if it is true put the rigth link :)--ometzit<col> 01:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I watched that video right before they took it down...devestating. I guess I had to see it to believe it.

Hey, this is for discussing the WIKIPEDIA article, not Youtube, not Ryan's love life. Okay? Okay. --P!@tD Girly! 01:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT categories

I'm confused about why this article is in Category:Gay musicians and Category:LGBT musical groups. To be honest, today is the first time I've heard about Panic! at the Disco, so I don't know anything about them. It just seems like their sexuality isn't mentioned in the article. -- Creidieki 08:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know all four members are openly gay. They haven't made any attempts at masking their sexuality and I think it's absurd that people have been writing cruel things about them just because they are homosexuals. Grow up guys, there's nothing unusual about being homosexual, especially in the Emo scene. 68.107.19.156 11:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Where do u get that info, not that I complain but you can put anything you want as longest you have the reference--ometzit<col> 05:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

All four of the members are straight as told to Rolling Stone Magazine. Drummerfazer 00:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Can we flag 68.107.19.156 for being a troll? The listing "gay musicians" was probably some immature person in their attempt to be funny. Doc Strange 19:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, wow. None of the members have admitted to being gay. In fact, Spencer has been dating Haley, a girl from his highschool. Ryan dated Jac, Jessica, and now Keltie. Brendon dated Audrey before, and Jon is currently dating Cassie. And in Rolling Stone, they said none of the members were gay. So, I think this is just a misconception. Brendon kisses Ryan on the cheek at shows, but Pete (from FOB) kisses Patrick at shows as well. It's nothing more than a kiss on the cheek, I think people are reading into it a little too much.

[edit] Vandalism

what's going on with the people? why put stupid words like is a pornographc sex/screamo band can anybody fix this? fix that please

[edit] P!ATD

I was gonna add, often referred to as Panic! or shortened to P!ATD, or is this too trivial?Feudonym 09:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree, in fact, PATD should redirect here. At least P!ATD already do it.--ometzit<col> 17:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving to AFYCSO

I think that there is a lot of jibberish on the main page that could be easily moved to "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out." Either way...that stuff will "have to go" when a new album comes out. Yourfateissealed 06:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] it is not dance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

panic!at the disco is not dance music,paula abdual is dance,is PAD anything like her?i think not. so please someone change that.they are more emo than dance.but they are like techno rock.thats all i have to say on that matter.

Panic! isn't really that emo. Nails for breakfeast and tacks for snacks & Camisado may be a little but those songs are about ryan's personal life. So their music isn't really that Emo. Some of Panic!'s songs are considered Dance. PrincessOfHearts 20:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

==OK???????????

Thats what im saying,i will say that Ryan did say quote,It's hard being an emo band with disco in our name on some show on fuse I was watching.I really dont understand dance.i mean you could dance to the music but i just,i dont know.this is stressful.c'mon we should make them decide.just please someone change the dance thing.it gets more annoying every time i see it.no their lyrics arnt i want to kill myself,shoot me please,i want you to die but they do give you a sense of how much life sucks.anyway,tell me your opinion.-Ryanluvsme

[edit] Panic! at the Disco is not emo

Panic1 at the Disco is not fuckin emo and who the hell cares if they that is freakin awsome and so r Panic! at the disco so F!%&* off people who diss Panic! at the Disco!!1

This made my day. Doppelganger 23:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Gosh ppl are still fighting over it? yeah the point is clear they are not emo (for me it seems otherwise but, what do I know)--ometzit<col> 23:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


I don't think it matters if they are emo or not. I think to some degree, yes, they are. They talk about a variety of issues, and the lyrics are basically what comes of Ryan's angst. But Panic! has openly said that they were classified as emo and I don't think they honestly care that much what genre they are. To me, it seems pretty clear that they are alternative. But in the Panic! box set, Brendon was joking around and classified them as "trip hop cabaret dance punk" or something like that, so I think by now this whole "emo" thing has just become a joke. The whole point of Panic! is that they're not the norm of music, they stand out, and they're not going to change. Stirring up controversy seems okay to me. And them, I'm guessing.

[edit] Reading. Bias and fanboys

i would like to know why the readin section has been removed from here, where he got complete owned by the bottle. this disscussion is bascilly a load of fanboys and fangirls. all you seem to do is remove any kinda of negative disscusion about that band, from here, as long as its not in the main article we can place any kind of view here, negative or possitive. so please will the bands lick-arses please stop removing everything just to makethe band look loveed. this is not a form of hating for those who launch agasint me, i have displayed no hate towards panic even tho i do not like there music. i have not put any insults to the band and i have no said anything about how bad they are. but if this gets removed itll just prove me point that band lick arses are being pathetic not to let view be shown. and for the record the band dnt want to be called emo, but they sing (vocals not lyrics) and dress completely like emos. they may not admit it but even if they do have hints or rock, dance or watever else they still have some emo in them. the band may not want to be called emos but the manager of the band is completely shaping them into what will sell. and being in that kinda of rut mean they will fold to the industrys requests. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.47.163.44 (talk) 15:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC).


Honestly, this is where YOU look stupid saying stuff like that. I appreciate that you have an opinion, I'm a Panic! fan, and yeah, the bottle only hit him in the shoulder, whatever. But first of all, you look ignorant calling people names, and second of all, it's hard to value an opinion when you can't even SPELL correctly. Maybe next time try being a little nicer and people will hear your opinion. Just a suggestion...

never called anyone names, and yeah i cant spell, but tbh i dnt care bout that coz its not a big deal, and for the record i dont look stupid for saying any of that, yeas it is my opinion. and hey i are the kind of person i was looking for, u defended the band. then u gave me some hate and then u used went on a personal attack on my poor spelling, pathetic, u are cleary a fan person. what i like is the way u instantly assume i dont like panic, i could love them but just think thatthe bottle inciddent was funny and i do like panic. i think they are a catchy litte band, if i hated them i would not be looking at there page.

Thank you whoever changed the dance thing!!!!!

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