Talk:Paladine (Dragonlance)

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[edit] Image

I'm still not good at uploading images and doing all the file history and whatnot, but I like this picture[1], it is of the Platinum Dragon I believe and would like to use on Paladine's page. If someone could do the uploading and whatnot, it would be much appreciated. DoomsDay349 23:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

If uploaded, it must be reduced in size, as is it is too big to qualify for Fair use. -- ReyBrujo 02:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

...And would you be able to reduce its size? DoomsDay349 03:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Class Listings for Gods of Good

This site[2] has listings for the classes of the gods of good. However, I do not know whether or not this is considered a reliable source. Tell me what you think, as it could be helpful. DoomsDay349 03:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Thought...

Something just struck me, should Paladine still be counted as a deity, considering his godhood was stripped? Should he not be counted as an elf? DoomsDay349 03:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I would go with the "less shocking" information. The same way I believe Mina's infobox would have to state she is a human and not something else. In truth, the article should focus more in why he was created and given that name than if he is right now elf or god. -- ReyBrujo 03:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer Review

RelentlessRouge conducted a peer review, which can be seen at my talk page, and said the article was good. Just posting here for the record. DoomsDay349 02:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Upon reflection, it wasn't a real peer review. Guess I added that a bit hastily. DoomsDay349 21:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Paladine (Dragonlance) (done)

Hi there, a lot of people seem to be identifying with this article, so i'd like to announce what i want to suggest. Paladine is a different spelling from Paladin and etymologically they are perfectly identical. That also means that someone might be looking for the hero of Charlemagne or the Hungarian Secretary when they type "paladine" - i am suggesting this article should be moved to Paladine (Dragonlance), and the redirect would go to Paladin (disambiguation), where this page is already listed. Any comments? --Flammingo^Parliament 21:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

If you google for Paladine, of the top 10 entries, only one means Paladin. Ddcc 21:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The "e" was not my point. The "t" of palatine is interchangeable with "d",the "e" optional.And google... well... "top ten" - that doesnt say much about the dominance of different meanings of the term, does it?--Flammingo^Parliament 23:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I would be against it. A disambiguation notice above this article is enough. Remember, we don't need to disambiguate unless there are multiple topics with this same title. That one word is a misspelling does not warrant a disambiguation page if a simple disambiguation link is enough. -- ReyBrujo 21:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed with Rey. The notice at the top is plenty, and if they add an "e" it's easy enough to click on the article and go to the proper article. DoomsDay349 22:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course, if there is only one article, absolutly yes. But on Paladin (disambiguation) there are quite a few articles about a Paladin, including other games, and originally a paladine was a real title, before Dragonlance, given by a king like Charlemagne. There are many meanings derived from that time, even other fictitious usages. My suggestion was about putting the one from the Middle Ages on the main article name Paladine=redirect to=>Paladin and the one on Dragonlance on the disambig. Any arguments against that? --Flammingo^Parliament 23:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... I would agree having Paladine, Palatine and Palatinus point to Paladin (disambiguation), as you say, there are many different meanings. That is what is usually done. Unluckily, a Google search may be misleading. We need to ask "If a user types Paladine, what he is looking for?". With some terms, it may be easy to define, but with others it becomes tricky. Personally, after checking the disambiguation page, I am neutral on this matter. -- ReyBrujo 00:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a tough situation. Flammingo, have you had any personal experience with looking for Paladins and typing Paladine? DoomsDay349 00:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, we both have biased analysis, as he wants those redirects to point to Paladin because he studies history, and we want it to point to this character because we read these novels. By the way, Flammingo, there is no need to change the information of your user page to hide that fact, I caught a glimpse of it before you changed it ;-) It is my belief that "real" subjects like places or events have more importance than fictional ones. However, I highly doubt anyone typing Paladine would be searching for Paladin instead of Paladine, based on the conception that Paladine is much less used as a term than Paladin to refer to these knights. However, another solution is to point Paladine to Paladin, and have a double disambiguation page there, with text similar to Paladine redirects here. For the Dragonlance fictional deity, see "Paladine (Dragonlance)". For other uses, see "Paladin (disambiguation)." -- ReyBrujo 00:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, my history studies are still there ;-) And yes, i found that the terms are mixed in many books i read and internet pages - you know, back in the middle ages that difference really didnt interest much. And i totally agree with However, another solution is to point Paladine to Paladin, and have a double disambiguation page there, with text similar to Paladine redirects here. For the Dragonlance fictional deity, see "Paladine (Dragonlance)". For other uses, see "Paladin (disambiguation)." Good night! --Flammingo^Parliament 01:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, Rey's proposal sounds good. I'll perform it, if you don't mind. DoomsDay349 01:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget to disambiguate all the links in Dragonlance articles that are pointing to Paladine right now. -- ReyBrujo 01:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, done. I'll get to fixing the disambig links now. DoomsDay349 01:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Just incase, there's still lots on Special:Whatlinkshere/Paladine, and don't forget templates!Ddcc 03:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

All Whatlinkshere has been changed thanks to Doomsday. So great that all this worked! --Flammingo^Parliament 00:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for finishing that up, Flamingo. DoomsDay349 00:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)