Talk:Paeonia lactiflora

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Original text: "...it is less highly valued as an ornamental plant than the cultivars of Paeonia rockii (tree peony) and its hybrid Paeonia x suffruticosa." Please provide source as to why this is incorrect. Badagnani 10:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

This will explain everything: Hong, D.-Y. & Pan, K.-Y. 1999. A revision of the Paeonia suffruticosa complex (Paeoniaceae). -Nordic Journal of Botany 19: 289-299. Copenhagen. ISSN 0107-055X. Note: Wikipedia articles should not be used as sources. --163.139.215.193 12:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • If this revision is accurate and accepted among botanists, then all peony articles should be edited to reflect this (and new species articles created to fill the lacunae that currently exist), with explanation of the revision with reference to Hong and Pan made in each place so as not to confuse users. Badagnani 13:26, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we have to give an "explanation" why P. rockii (found in 1920s) was confused with P. suffruticosa (known for more than two thousand years) in Wikipedia articles. We can't. Can we? --163.139.215.193 13:53, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It's not too much to ask. Not everyone knows as much about the subject as you seem to. You didn't mention that suffruticosa is usually described as an "x" species (that is another level of complication), and why in the first place there isn't even a suffruticosa article here. Badagnani 14:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I searched and found another source that explains hybrid origin of P. suffruticosa.
Stephen G. Haw, Tree Peonies - A Review of their History and Taxonomy, The New Plantsman, 2001 8 (3) :156-171 (OCR-scan is on www.paeo.de)
I didn't know that but P. suffruticosa may be just a collection of various kinds of hybridized cultivars. Now I agree, some explanation might help. --163.139.215.193 15:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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