Talk:Pactio (Negima)

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[edit] Albireo's Pactio

I hope it's alright, but I also added a certain thing about Albireo's Pactio number, 1001 (MI). It's an interesting thing to wonder about, and I'm sure Ken Akamatsu put it in there for some reason, but so far the reason is unknown. CrazyNekoRun 07:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Since we're on the subject, I have one source that claims that in the recent(at the time of this typing) chapter 163, Alberio has multiple pactios. I would like to verify this, as it does say a bit about Pactios in general.

My original rejection of the idea that Alberio had a pactio with Nagi was Mana's Pactio. As I mentioned before, Nagi's past self in Alberio's artifact assumed that he would be dead by the time Negi saw the recording. If Pactios become inert with the death of the mage (Alberio uses it as proof that Nagi is alive), Nagi would not want to leave a message/will on something that would not be usable by the time it was needed. If Alberio has several pactios, it would certainly go a long way to keeping the message intact.

But whether he does or not, that makes a pretty big revelation about the nature of the artifacts. Unless Alberio has an entire library of bio libraries, he only has one artifact for all those Pactios. This would suggest that, aside from the initial bestowing and summoning, the Artifact is semi-independent of the pactio itself. If Alberio has multiple Pactios but only one artifact, that would mean that the pactio mostly allows easy summoning of the artifact.

If he only has the one, then the use of the Artifact is completely independent of the pactio once it is given. This would mean that the death of the Magister Magi only derives the Ministra of the usual power boost and the ability to stow and summon the artifact at will. This would explain why Nagi had his partner use the artifact, as it would work even after he was gone. It would also suggest that Mana's pistols are her artifact, and not just replicas.

If KFC has multiple pactios, the same may still apply, but it also presumes that a person can have multiple temporary(maybe even permanent) Pactios on the Ministra's side as well as the magisters. But it also assumes that a Ministra only gets one artifact. SAMAS 16:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Addendum: Okay, so apparently all those other Pactio cards (about 10) are Dead Pactios like Mana's. They all look exactly like his active one, but without all the books surrounding him. i.e.: he only has the book that's in his hand. They also seem to have different (smaller) numbers than his active one, which would imply that he has such a large number because he's had so many Pactios in sequence. SAMAS 23:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pactio Text from Negima!? Page

Asuna

  • Armor: Wears armor and a sword similar to the one found in her original card.
  • Cosplay: Wears a traditional Japanese comedian kimono, armed only with a Harisen
  • Suka: Becomes a chibi boar.

Nodoka

  • Armor: Multiple books float around her containing (in theory) the knowledge of the entire universe, but she tends to have trouble searching depending of the topic (i.e. for her Pactio ability to be truly effective, she needs to know the exact subject she's looking for).
  • Cosplay: Sports red glasses and uses a book to read other peoples' minds similar to her original Pactio powers.
  • Suka: Becomes a chibi seal with a little beach ball.

Konoka

  • Armor: Wears a traditional kimono and is armed with a set of expanding fortune-telling chopsticks, which she uses as a rope-like weapon.
  • Suka: Becomes a chibi koala.

Setsuna

  • Armor: Gains a powerful sword and wings similar to her han'yō form in the original manga.
  • Suka: Becomes a chibi Japanese crane, with her being able to fly in that form.

Fuuka

  • Cosplay: Dresses up as a Japanese detective.

Fumika

  • Cosplay: Dresses up as an English detective.

Kaede

  • Cosplay: Dresses up as a mountain man, with her ninja skills possibly being amplified while in cosplay form (for instance, she's able to summon a frog that she can use to save her fellow comrades).

Haruna

  • Cosplay: Similar to her Pactio item in the manga, Haruna receives a sketchbook which allows her to summon anything that she draws.

Sayo

  • Cosplay: Becomes solid and can "possess" solid objects, thus enabling other people to "reach through" the item.

Ayaka

  • Armor: Uses a whip similar to the ones that appear in the Castlevania video games.

[edit] Pactio pics

For some reason I'm thinking of maybe uploading pics of Pactio, at least the six created by Akamatsu in use in the manga (Asuna, Nodoka, Setsuna, Konoka, Yue, Chisame), perhaps with examples of a couple of "Negima!" TV Pactio and Neo-Pactio. However, I'm a bit unsure on the usage of copyrights in this matter considering I don't want to break any laws. Should we do this or just not chance it? -StrangerAtaru 02:01, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The ones marked sample may be alright to use, I think. --Aldis90
Are the sample ones right to use though? I rather try without them, but maybe I'll see what happens if I put those ones up. -StrangerAtaru 22:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

"Official Pactio". I'm noticing all the subtexts of the images have that label. Anyone care to specify on that? KyuuA4 06:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Official Pactio as I put them on the page are those that have already been introduced in the manga as well as had a release in Japan. Since six of the seven current Pactio girls are using the same Pactio that was already created by Akamatsu either while or prior to appearing in the manga, they are the official Pactio. -StrangerAtaru 13:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)