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The Pac-10 claims the PCC as it's decendant, which is true in that it involved the same teams, but it really isn't accurate because the PCC was disolved over a scandal, and something new was built from the scraps; it wasn't simply a renaming. I feel like the PCC information should be taken off this page and what's relevant added to the PCC page.

{Guest} - 15 November 2005 - The new information regarding Associate Members is helpful because of recent NCAA legislation regarding the mandatory six (6) members for each sport. It seems strange that neither of the Arizona schools have men's soccer programs. Further, from the west coast perspective, it also seems strange that wrestling is still a major collegiate sport. Also, does anyone have any information about that burgeoning athletic movement of "lacrosse," any rumors involving Pac-10 teams???

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[edit] Travelling Partners

What is the "travelling partner" arrangement?

Pac-10 basketball teams (men and women) play almost all of their intra-conference basketball games on Thursdays and Saturdays. And the two games are against two teams in the same state or city area, and their partner team would also play the same two teams in reverse order. So, for example, Stanford and Cal would go to Washington to play Washington and Wash State on a Thursday and Saturday, (e.g, Stanford vs Wash and Cal vs WSU on Thursday, and then Stanford and Cal flipping for the Sat game). Importantly, the road teams would not travel home between games, but just have the short trip betweeen the 2 away games. This has the advantage of cutting down travel significantly. (I imagine the minor sports do something similar when it makes sense). Every weekend, then, 8 of the 10 teams have Thu/Sat games scheduled. The other two teams can play each other or have a non-conference game. Simon12 17:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

{Guest} - 6 December 2005 - I changed the SDSU logo to reflect the most recent version. The logo posted here earlier was from the early 1990s. The SDSU wiki article and the SDSU Athletics website have the correct logos.

[edit] Pac-10 rumors

Unless the editors adding to this section can start adding citations for some of the speculation, I am going to pare it down considerably on the grounds of No original research. BlankVerse 12:01, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Probably not a bad idea. Matt Yeager 02:28, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

well the bowl game schedule has been put out and the pac 10 has taken it in the butt again. sure usc got in but it took a number 1 finish to do it. last year cal got sent to the holiday bowl and this year oregon has been shipped off as well. it's turned the holiday bowl into the "humility bowl" it looks to me like the powers to be have taken care of the big ten the acc and the sec right well. while the rest of the country treats the bcs as part of their personel property the pac ten goes around the country saying," why can't we all just be friends". i don't think the commissioner is concerned as long as southern california is happy. he has become a commisionaire rather than a commissioner. if someone in his office would send me his dress size i would be more than happy to see that he is appropriately decorated for next years fall soire. ~jim werner

  • Guest - 6 December 2005. I did the best I could to add some research to these "rumors" by citing to some recent newspaper reports about San Diego State University (SDSU). Perhaps the best source of information could be the transcripts or paperwork from the yearly commissioner meetings of the Pac-10 presidents. Anyone know where we could find these things? Every year the subject is discussed but no decisions are made.
  • This section had to go. It offered nothing factual about the Pac-10. Rather, it served as a soapbox for wishful thinking.

[edit] Trivia

I didn't think this was worth adding to the main article, but during the it's time as the Pac-8 (particularly in the '70s), football in the league was dominated by the USC Trojans (which won three national titles in that decade) and the league had the nickname: "USC and the Seven Dwarves" Bobak 17:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports

Do we want to add a section about the sports that the conference has. Like on the ACC page. And also list national champions that came from the Pac-10. This would be a great and incredible list Washington-Women's Volleyball 2005, OSU Baseball '06 not to mention the other various championships of UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, Cal and most notably USC. tduwhs

I want to add a section about Pac 10 softball--Azureblue1 05:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Please do. Streltzer 17:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Added conf champion from 1987 onwards. Pasadena91 18:58, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I added the Men's Soccer box listing, but I think that we should have something like that for each of the PAC-10 sports. Streltzer 17:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football Controversy

I seperated it from the general football discussion so that it would appear in the table of contents at the top of the page, but should this be in a seperate article? It makes the article unduly lengthy and is tangential to the overall concept of this article. Streltzer 17:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think this really has any place in an informational overview about the Pacific-10 conference. This seems completely off-topic in the context of the rest of the article. Csba 22:44, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd be OK with splitting it out into its own article, so long as the content is not lost. I'll take a stab at splitting it out. Johntex\talk 21:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The section is a joke in this article. Will people outside of OU remember that incident next season? It's a piece of trivia that's treated totally out of proportion for an article about the entire Pac-10 conference. --Bobak 23:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely trivia and should not comprise such a large proportion of the article, if any. Maybe it could go into an article about Sooners football 2006. I'm going to do what should have already been done and trim it way down. No reason to start an edit war. If people really think it belongs in the article, then revert. But it appears that there is some early agreement that it is beyond the scope of this Wikipedia article. Goeverywhere 04:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I still do not see a consensus or resolution to the issue of the "Football Controversy" section. Should it stay as is in its slimmed-down version, should it be deleted, or perhaps established as a seperate article? Streltzer 20:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

There is a discussion to clarify our policy/guideline on the use of sports team logos. Please see Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos if you wish to participate in the discussion. Johntex\talk 16:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Past Champions: Football

I suggest the Rose Bowl or BCS Bowl participants be marked with an * next to them, especially the years that have co-champions.

66.91.154.34 21:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football rivalries

I removed a lot of stuff about USC-Notre Dame and Stanford-Notre Dame. My feeling is that this is an article about the Pac-10 conference -- we could go on forever if we talked about out-of-conference rivalries. That information is much more relevant in the articles about the respective schools. As a result I've trimmed it back and limited it to discussion of Pac-10 rivals. Jsnell 22:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)