Talk:Pac-Man

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[edit] Make this a good article This article needs the following issues fixed to meet the good article criteria (see Talk:Pac-Man#Good article nomination has failed): There is a bit of redundancy in the article (paku-man, pakupaku, etc, get explained twice). Some removable phrases like "here is" and "there is". Some sections and paragraphs are only a sentence long. Some sentences do not appear to be complete. There are too many facts that are not cited. Many of the items that are cited do not appear in the References section of the article. It's not clear that the decriptions of ghost patterns, knockoffs, character descriptions from cartoons, etc. are from sources other than original research. There are no fair use rationales in the images, as far as Bugmuncher has seen. with reference to defender, I believe defender came AFTER pacman - this needs to be researched Clean up redundancies in "Games featuring pac-man" and "Pac-Man in popular culture" sections There are a lot of uncited assertions (may now be addressed) Almost everything regarding the gameplay of the other games, such as Pac-Mania, Jr. Pac-Man, etc. If such facts were covered in Hirschfeld books, they should be cited. Reliable sources are also needed for the Christmas special and other cartoons, or the extra detail should be removed. Split-screen level: Needs citations for the Reagan/Yee incident, as well as the Twin Galaxies and Billy Mitchell record-keeping. Clones and bootlegs: Needs citations for information on bootlegs. Section also needs major cleanup. [edit] Other Replace Image:A2600_Pac-Man.png with an animated GIF version that shows all four flickering ghosts. NeonMerlin (talk • email) can mock this up if colour values are provided for the other ghosts. Keep the trivia section in chronological order and stop it from getting too large with unverifiable, relatively unimportant statements. We could use a free image for the merchandise / popular culture section of some Pac-Man merchandise from the era.
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[edit] Cuts and changes

This article's pretty long, and still needs a ton of citations. However, there's also a lot of really in-depth material that could probably be cut, particularly specific information about the ghost characters, and how they appeared in cartoons and such, and perhaps too much about gameplay information.

I wouldn't mind it if someone wanted to split the information into character articles, such as Pac-Man (character) and a separate article for the ghosts, since those seem to get a bit too far out of scope for this article, which is focused on the original arcade game. It's easily individual comparable to most Pokemon articles, since both Pac-Man and the Ghosts have had many, many appearance affecting general pop culture in diffent media and game sequels. --SevereTireDamage 07:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Removals - Diff 1: Personalities section. Diff 2: Nomenclature section. --SevereTireDamage 07:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding SevereTireDamage's message. Why would you make Pacman (Character) an article? Although everyone knows that pacman rocks, there is insufficient information to start one. --71.224.19.29 16:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be enough information in the current version of the article to warrant a 'Pacman (Character)' article. However there is quite a bit of information about the ghosts, especially if any of the personalities section (that User:SevereTireDamage removed) can be worked in. I would agree that a Ghosts (Pacman Characters) article could be created. --Mattarata 02:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

should PSPacman be mentioned in the clones and bootlegs section?

[edit] Failed GA

I failed this article due to scant references in the Ghosts, Ports, and Popular Culture sections.Some P. Erson 16:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction needs resolution

From the article:

Immensely popular from its first release through today, Pac-Man is universally considered as one of the classics of the medium, virtually synonymous with video games, and an icon of 1980s popular culture. Upon its release, the game became a social phenomenon...

From later on in the article:

When first launched in Japan in 1979 by Namco, the game received a lukewarm response, as Space Invaders and other games of similar ilk were far more popular at the time.

So which is it? --Darksasami 20:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maniac

I remember playing this updated version of Pac Man known as Maniac. It basically gave you new features such as a turbo boost and such. I recall it was made by a company known as Best Before Yesterday. 67.188.172.165 21:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Website links

What is the purpose of the message near the bottom of the Pacman article that says not to post links to websites that include playable versions of Pacman?

JBFrenchhorn 10:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC) 11/26/06

It's there to help prevent people from adding links to playable versions of Pac-Man... This article, along with others, are big spam targets--articles to which some users love to add links to sites that have clones of popular games (and often ads as well). Wikipedia policy discourages these types of links. But since some users love to add them, it creates more work for editors who have to come in behind them and weed them out. The message is meant to help curb the addition of the links in the first place. Does that answer your question? — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's also because Namco still owns the rights to Pac-Man, so any site that has a playable version of Pac-Man is infringing on copyright, and Wikipedia has a policy against linking to copyright-infringing websites. --Birdhombre 16:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

In general, remakes (homebrew clones) are not welcome in Wikipedia entries and will be edited out. The only "playable version" exception is if Namco Bandai were to put their own official online version up (in cross platform format such as Java or Flash), such as the case where Atari has with some of their games. To date, I haven't seen Namco Bandai do that.--Marty Goldberg 17:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] klkl

who has a atari 2600?

[edit] That is NOT CD-Man!

What the heck is that white cloud guy? I remember that CD-Man looked exactly like Pac-Man.--195.229.242.88 20:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

• I haven't played CDman, but if I had to guess I'd say maybe an unlockable extra character? Googling "cdman" brings up lots of screenshots of both the white cloud thing and a pac-clone as the player character, and I think its more likely that the pac-clone be the main character than some random fluffy thing. --70.66.130.206 03:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

There are a couple of versions of this game. I think version 1.x features the pac-clone and version 2.0 that white cloud guy. Calvero2 21:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category split

Although all of the games in the "Arcade titles" section have been released by some company, could someone split the Arcade section into Authorized releases and Unauthorized titles?-- Maier 03 03:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History gaffe?

Under history, it says the game was created by Iwatani "over thirty-six thousand months." That's 3,000 years! That's gotta be an error; does anyone have a correct, CITABLE reference for this factoid??? DrGaellon 04:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interview with Scott Rogers

I found this interview with Scott Rogers (designer of Pac-Man World) that was written a few years ago:

1st Church of Pac-Man interview with Scott Rogers

It talks about certain things in Pac-Man World, as well as other topics such as Pac-Man in general, the character of Pinky, the popularity of the Pooka enemy from Dig Dug, and the decision not to give a voice to Pac-Man in the first Pac-Man World (keep in mind that this was long before Pac-Man World 3, where Pac-Man was voiced by Martin T. Sherman).

Do you think we could work some of this information into the related articles? - NES Boy 06:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures of unlicensed Pac-Man ports

The SAM Coupe Pac-Man is not a licensed adaptation, and it seems misleading to show a picture of it in the gallery of port screenshots. I don't want to step on toes by simply removing it, but IMO screenshots in this section should only be of legit ports. (Perhaps a separate section for screenshots of clones would work... I'd love to see a screenshot of the old UNIX Pac-Man clone being played on a VT-100 terminal!) Anyone agree? Student Driver 15:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, this article sure gets a lot of vandalism...

Just commenting. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 05:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)