Talk:Pablo Picasso

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Archive 1

Contents 1 Surname 2 Cultural depictions of Pablo Picasso 3 Picasso's work 4 Revision proposed 5 English Translations of Work 6 Picasso: Just a Painter and Sculptor? 7 Picasso's Full Name... 8 Improving article status/Peer Review 9 Semi-Protected

[edit] Surname

Picasso was his mother's maiden name; his father's surname was Ruiz. Presumably Pablo's legal surname remained Ruiz, unless he changed it formally. We need to explain why he chose to use his mother's surname for his artistic works, when this happened, and what implications it had for the surnames of his children. JackofOz 03:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I think Mailer quotes him as once saying – jokingly – that all the great ones had double s’s. He writes about the name change in his biography but I no longer have my copy ... otherwise ... I could be more useful! ~nude grey~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.132.24.158 (talk • contribs) 08:44, October 13, 2006.

I think that is a good question, but could it be that it is just usual for spanish people to take their mother's name, cause in some counties it is? soooo if anyone has more info please!! AniekM —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.87.33.150 (talk • contribs) 15:30, October 22, 2006.

So, for some reason people seem to think Picasso's full name is "Picasso was born as Pablito Diego Jose Santiago Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno Crispin Crispiniano de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santisima Trinidad Ruiz Blasco y Picasso Lopez." I deleted this a week or so back, and someone added it back in. It's completely unsourced and kind of ridiculous. If anyone knows a source of this information, please add it or discuss it here in the discussion page. Otherwise I'll delete it again.--Drewcifer3000 02:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know about "Ruiz Blasco y Picasso Lopez", but he did receive that improbable list of forenames at his christening. I'll come up with a citation. —Celithemis 03:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural depictions of Pablo Picasso

I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information. I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list. Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article. Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this as a model for the editors here. Regards, Durova 15:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picasso's work

Please save these images by putting them in good use. These images can be included in the List of Picasso artworks articles under the fair use license. However, someone needs to match the original title of the artworks in the lists with the translated title used here.

Picasso	Head of a woman	Man with a Lollipop	Dying Bull
The Scream	Still Life with a bottle of Rum	Self Portrait	Girl in Profile
Girl Reading at a Table	Mandolin, Fruit Bowl, and Plaster Arm	Portrait of Gertrude Stein	The Actor
Leaning Harlequin	Nude in an armchair	Breakfast of a Blind Man

Actually, that's not entirely true. In order for these pictures to be kept, there needs to be critical commentary/discussion about the artworks themselves, as per the {{Art}} fair use tag. howcheng {chat} 19:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revision proposed

This article contains very little description of Picasso's art. As a first step toward fixing this I propose a reorganization: the "Career" section, perhaps renamed "Biography", will lead, and the life story will be followed by a section ("Works") with fuller description of his work, followed by the links to decade-by-decade lists. Among other things, this should make the article easier for future contributors to expand--right now, it's difficult to plug information about his work into the text without disrupting the flow. Are there any objections or suggestions? Ewulp 00:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Translations of Work

I think it would be a great idea to have the English translations of his work side-by-side with the original names. Thanks!--Knulclunk 18:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picasso: Just a Painter and Sculptor?

I think Picasso should be described as an 'Artist', rather than 'painter and sculptor', because his creative scope seemed very wide, and he practiced pottery, printmaking and designing, even did stage designing for his friends (Jean Cocteau, for example), which are held highly in the histories of the respective fields. It wasn't just like Bob Dylan doing a painting exhibition, you see. He actually has a place in the history of stage design with his cubistic division of space bringing an entirely different language into it. All this just to request a revision of the intro. Thanks...--Objecthood 07:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picasso's Full Name...

I think there's been some confusion over Picasso's full name...it's, as far as I knew, not "Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Crispín Crispiniano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso" but "Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cripiniano de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz y Picasso" - that is, instead of '...Crispin Crispiano...', it should be '...Cipriano...' Please cross-check and verify before finalizing. Thanks.--59.93.240.131 07:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Improving article status/Peer Review

This article appears to be at or near Good article status. Does anyone know if this article has recently (or ever) been through a Peer review process, with an eye towards making it a Good article or a Featured article?

Would any of the editors contributing to this article be interested in assisting in the Peer review, and nomination for Good article process? EspanaViva 07:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello! Good idea but not yet--I think peer review would be premature. The article has some serious deficiencies which should be corrected first: there are almost no inline citations and it says very little about his art. Ewulp 03:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-Protected

Is it possible we can make this article Semi-Protected? It seems to be the subject of quite a lot of Vandalism (especially recently). Sarm 06:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

There was a previous discussion about vandalism that was moved to the archive. It was already semi-protected between the beginning of November 2006 and the middle of February 2007. Since that time it has been vandalized a couple of hundred times. I don't think it should have been taken off the list, but admins are reluctant to keep an article semi-protected for an extended period of time. Within hours of being unprotected it was vandalized dozens of times. Feel free to take it up at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if you would like, I'm certainly behind you. Cacophony 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)