Talk:P-47 Thunderbolt

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[edit] Suggestion

The information about earlier Aircraft from the same maufacturer should be move to the appropriate pages.

  • I think a case can be made for leaving them there.

Not one of the early Seversky aircraft is interesting enough to be worth a separate entry, and they have an evolutionary sequence that leads almost directly to the P-47. In fact, at a casual glance the P-43 can be confused with the P-47.

However, although a number of my writings have been ported to the Wikipedia, I maintain a hands-off attitude towards how it is done, and so whatever you think is wisest is fine.

[edit] Article move

I request moving this article to follow the standard aircraft naming convention used for most other US airplanes --Denniss 09:51, 2005 May 7 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. Republic P-47 and P-47 Thunderbolt have been swapped, leaving the article at the latter and some history at the former. P-47 remains a redirect]]. violet/riga (t) 14:34, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

How many aircraft kills did the P-47 have? - Disastermanx

[edit] Early Seversky aircraft, P-35 and P-35A

Nice section - except it's all about Mr Seversky, and not about the P-35 or P-35A. Perhaps this should be moved to Seversky's biography, and replaced by information on the P-35? Guapovia 16:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone Slightly Informal?

At least, the initial part seems a bit too colloquial. A good read, but not really "encyclopediaish", if that's a word. The content is accurate, just informal. Guapovia 16:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jug

I think it ought to be pointed out that the nickname "Jug" for the P-47 was possibly an abreviation of "Juggernaut" due to the plane's then unprecedented size.

It wasn't. It was due to its rotund shape. - Emt147 Burninate! 23:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Whatever the reason for the monkier, it is, to the best of my knowledge, an abbreviation of Juggernaut. 85.210.49.160 06:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you should improve your knowledge then. - Emt147 Burninate! 08:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Varible Pitch Constant Speed Prop for P-47

My impression is that the constant speed varible pitch prop was not introduced in this airplane until later in the C model and then all D models.

I remember notes from pilots reporting that the Razorback "D" model could climb like a scared cat.

Overall I think this is an excellent article.

John Cook

[edit] Bio

I pulled this bit:

De Seversky was born in 1894 in Georgia, and became a naval aviator in the Tsar's forces in World War I. He lost a leg early in the conflict, but returned to the air with an artificial leg and claimed 13 "kills" in combat.

After the October Revolution in 1917, De Seversky was sent to the United States as part of a 1918 military mission. Having no confidence in the new regime, he decided to stay in America, and became an aeronautical engineer in employ of the United States Army Air Corps (USAAC), where he worked closely with the air warfare pioneer General Billy Mitchell. De Seversky obtained American citizenship in 1927.

In 1931, De Seversky founded the "Seversky Aircraft Company" at Farmingdale on Long Island, in New York state. The company was very small, with De Seversky acting as president, designer, and chief test pilot, but he also hired a fellow Russian expatriate named Alexander Kartveli as a design engineer. Kartveli was an original designer with many innovative ideas, and would eventually become chief designer when De Seversky became more preoccupied with the business aspects of running a company.

The early Seversky aircraft, such as the Seversky P-35 and its relatives, were important steps on the way to the development of the P-47.

It belongs on De Seversky's bio page, not here. More severe copyediting to come... - Emt147 Burninate! 05:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism?

Some clownboat put the maximum speed for the P-47D at 467MPH, 32,500 feet. This is made especially obvious since the original metric velocity of 685KM/H remains unchanged...reverted to 426MPH. I'm pretty sure the top speed for the P-47N is 467MPH, 32,500 feet, but this is not mentioned in the P-47N's section at all, despite the fact that it DOES mention an uprated engine. dreddnott 07:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Found images of XP-47H

I was looking for some more photographs to add to the P-47 site and found these images of the XP-47H. It was indeed a strange looking aircraft.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/061020-F-1234P-028.jpg
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/061020-F-1234P-029.jpg
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/061020-F-1234P-030.jpg
I thought about adding the image to the page since it looks so different than the other models but since I could only find a blurb of information about it; it's not very significant and would not contribute much to the page if I did. I added this so other enthusiast of the P-47 can take a look and see what the aircraft looked like.
--Signaleer 07:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aircraft vs tanks

The P-47 destroyed thousands of tanks, locomotives, and parked aircraft, and tens of thousands of trucks and other vehicles [citation needed].

That is a myth. While airpower was very effective at destroying soft vehicles like trucks locomotives, thus "killing" the logictics and separating tanks from the needed gas, spare parts, repair crews and equiqment, airpower was lousy at directly killing tanks (see for example Tony Williams' book "Rapid Fire"). From the time the P-47 reached the ETO until the end of the war there were not even 1000 tanks destryoed by the whole airpower of the allied forces so how could the P-47s kill "thousands" of tanks? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.202.49.148 (talk • contribs).

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