Talk:Pérotin

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[edit] Pérotin's dates

An anon today added approximate birth and death dates (1160-1240). We really know nothing about Pérotin's life, unless there is some recent research of which I'm not aware; we know he was an adult around 1197-1200, when he wrote his four-voice organum, and he probably collaborated with Philip the Chancellor, which couldn't have been before 1220, but beyond that nothing; if someone has a source giving these dates, or even better some justifaction for them, could you please post here? Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Why not change to "fl. 1197-1200," then? Grove simply says "fl. c. 1200." Badagnani 02:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, "fl. c. 1197-1200" can be misleading... "fl. c. 1200" would be enough in this case, especially to avoid confusion... Selfinformation 22:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hum, I'm going to change it to fl. c. 1200 for now, as "fl. c." adds quite enough ambiguity as it is, no need to have a three year span in which he "flourished round about -ish". Mak (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pérotin and minimalism

I'm removing the statement "...and indeed it can be argued that Pérotin himself was a proto-minimalist." On the contrary, Pérotin's polyphonic structures were the most complex pieces of music composed up to that point in the history. If minimalism implies a deliberate paring-down or reduction of musical structure, then in an age when most music was still plainchant these compositions were ""maximal"", not minimal. On the other hand, it's accurate to say that some minimalist composers of the 20th century drew inspiration from Pérotin's work. InnocuousPseudonym September 21, 2006

Good call. Badagnani 20:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)