Talk:Oscar Robertson

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[edit] Wilt Chamberlain quote

I can't find a source for the Wilt Chamberlain quote in the lead section. If anyone can, please cite it -- if not, the quote should be removed. CalebNoble 08:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The quote has been removed. Myasuda 07:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Important points about The Big O

First, his background. The Indianapolis he grew up in was very racially segregated. As a black, Robertson had to face down a lot of racism and he never forgot that. The U. of Indiana would not offer him a scholarship. The U. of Cincinnati gave him academic problems. Second, the guy was very cutting edge as a player. A big point guard who could post up other guards near the basket. At times much like a center or a forward, at other times very much the point guard. Magic Johnson and Anfernee Hardaway were compared to Oscar. At 6'5 he was very strong in an era of 200-pound forwards. Third, the guy was no-flash by choice. No dunks, no in-yo-face. He was intelligent, calculating. He controlled the game's tempo with the ball. He analyzed matchups and played to win. He could impose his will on a game like few ever. He is the all-time NBA point guard. Four, the triple-doubles. Oscar will tell you they are overrated. He did them in the flow of the game without any thought to his stats. Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain has triple-doubles also. But blocked shots were not counted then. There were more rebounds available in the 60s. Assists were harder to get in his day. He went after a ton of free throws. The stats don't matter. His all-around talent did not need numbers. Five, the Royals were a mess. The owners drafted only local guys and looked to sell hotdogs. Oscar was sometimes part of the problem with the racial division of the team. But they played several seasons in the wrong division, had to deal with the Celtics, 76ers and Knicks, all of whom won titles, and lost key guys to expansion. The Royals also had four coaches during Oscar's run there. Yes, the guy did have an issue with Jerry Lucas that was race-related. Six, the guy was president of the NBA Players Union, taking over for Bob Cousy and Tom Heinsohn. He sued the NBA individually as well. He never backed down on principle and made an impact with the league off the court. Seven, he could have kept playing. But he couldn't get the pay he wanted. The Milwaukee Bucks never contended again without him. He entered the Hall of Fame along side Jerry West and Jerry Lucas. Oscar makes the case he is the greatest player ever. He isn't. By his own admission, Wilt Chamberlain is. But you will still hear him make his case. Ultimately, he has gone a long way to serve himself. But he is a remarkable person who was a truly rare basketball player.

[edit] Needs A Photo

ASAP. Quadzilla99 18:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

This request is now active again. Thanks to Timpcrk87 for the heads-up. Myasuda 00:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major rewrite

In my attempt to put BigO into GA range, I have rewritten the article... including that pic. I'll put it through peer review first, and then go for GA, I guess. —Onomatopoeia 11:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Went for the GA nomation now. —Onomatopoeia 17:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
looks good overall no real quibbles. Chensiyuan 17:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Both images appear to have disappeared, so I've removed the red links, I'm sure they ought not feature in a GA, hope you don't mind. The Rambling Man 09:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I've implemented most of the changes described in the automated peer review. Just a couple left, an image and a proper copyedit, although I have spell checked it and unified it into US English. The Rambling Man 11:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
"called by some the greatest assemblage of amateur basketball talent ever". is this likely to attract NPOV, given it is unsourced? Chensiyuan 03:35, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

I am granting this article GA status. There are a few minor grammer errors, but they are so minor that I'll fix them myself. I do have one minor concern: shouldn't the Olympic medal box go right after the main infobox? Either way, good job on the article.

An article I have been working on, Cape Feare, is currently a GAC and if you could review it, it would be much appreciated. -- Scorpion 19:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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