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Contents 1 Number of Composes of Orhan Gencebay 1.1 Matter 1.2 References 1.2.1 Newspapers 1.2.2 Magazines 1.2.3 Books 1.2.4 Biographies 1.2.5 Other 2 Birth Name

[edit] Number of Composes of Orhan Gencebay

[edit] Matter

CanbekEsen , thanks for cleaning up the article.

My English is not much good for writing a clear article in Wikipedia, although I have been working on tr:Orhan Gencebay article for some time.

I should mention and fix one of the minor changes [you made] in the article.

In the previous versions, it was written that Orhan Gencebay made over a thousand of composes in his musical life. It seems you changed the number "a thousand" in that phrase with the number "a hundred". I am wondering why you have changed that information? Do you have some resources or references mention that Gencebay has a hundred of composes? Or do you have all albums of Gencebay, and by that way have you counted all of Gencebay's songs?

First of all, I have to specify that Orhan Gencebay only sings his own composes. All of the songs in his albums are his own works.

Second, Orhan Gencebay has released 35 singles between 1963-1978, 15 long-plays between 1971-1988, and 32 MC&CD's between 1968-2006. A CD includes 10-12 songs. That way, just in CDs, Orhan Gencebay released (32*10=320) about 320 composes.

Third,if you add the singles, other long-plays, and his other records in movies, the total amount of composes that he performed in his life reaches to about 500.

Except his albums, as a composer, Orhan Gencebay also has many songs which he has never singed, but has let other singers to perform. The number of that composes copyrighted by Orhan Gencebay is about 150.

Totally, Orhan Gencebay has about 650 composes released and performed by himself and other singers.

In addition, Orhan Gencebay said in some interviews that he made over 1000 composes in his life (both the releases and unreleased songs).

I am going to fix that phrase...

[edit] References

[edit] Newspapers

• Berköz, Elif (December 12, 2005). Ne Sazımın Yaşlanmaya Niyeti Var Ne de Benim (Turkish). Milliyet. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000'in üzerinde beste yapmış.”.

• Sevinç, Erkan (June 21, 2004). Orhan Baba (Turkish). Hürriyet. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000e yakın bestesi olan sanatçı”.

[edit] Magazines

• Vural, Fatih (March 12, 2007). 65 milyon babalığımın tescilidir (Turkish). Aksiyon. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “Yaptığım adet ise 1000’in üzerindedir.”.

• Kılıç, Abdullah (March 14, 1998). Ben Arabeskçi Değilim (Turkish). Aksiyon. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000’e yakın bestesi bulunan Gencebay”.

[edit] Books

• Hakan, Ahmet (2001). Ne Olur Sev Beni (in Turkish). Turkey: Birey Yayınları. ISBN 975-8257-95-1. 

• Özbek, Meral (1991). Popular Culture and Orhan Gencebay's Arabesk, 7th edition (in Turkish), Turkey: İletişim Yayınları. ISBN 975-8257-95-1. 

[edit] Biographies

• Orhan Gencebay (Turkish). KimKimdir.Gen.Tr Turkish Biography Official Web Site. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000e yakın bestesi bulunan”.

• MESAM Yönetim Kurulu (Turkish). Musical Work Owners' Society of Turkey. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000’e yakın bestesi bulunan Gencebay”.

• Orhan Gencebay Official Web Site (Turkish). www.orhangencebay.com.tr. Archived from the original on 2006-06-02. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000'e yakın bestesi olan Orhan GENCEBAY,”.

[edit] Other

Aral, Ayşegül (2005). "Müzikologlar Gözüyle Orhan Gencebay" (in Turkish) (pdf). Republic of Turkey, Samsun Municipality Official Web Site. Retrieved on 2007-03-27. “1000’e yakın bestesi bulunan” 

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Yasakresim 17:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I believe I made a mistake. I had read "100" instead of "1000" and wrote hundred. I've no doubt that he's produced such works, but it was a little mistake :) I will look at the Turkish version of this and translate some things into English. Thanks so much for all the links! CanbekEsen 22:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

You're wellcome, CanbekEsen :) In the next days (or weeks) I will be working on references and other resources comprehensively to make the article more literal and fully sourced. The article needs some important additional info, some layout fix, and sub-categoric templating or dissective specialization too...

By the way, thanks so much for fixing my bad wording in the article :)

Yasakresim 11:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birth Name

Orhan Gencebay's birth name is Orhan Kencebay. Until later 1960s he used his real surname Kencebay, soon he changed it to Gencebay.

This 45rpm single is from early 1960s, and you can clearly see on the covering that it was released under the name of Orhan Kencebay.
Yasakresim 14:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)