Talk:Order of succession
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The alt.talk.royalty FAQ is wrong when it states that primogeniture is a type of succession whereby males take precedence over females - and, when I search through their archives, it seems most people on ATR would agree with me. It is just a general term for a succession which favours the elder child above the younger, nothing more. Both Japan, Britain and Belgium have a form of primogeniture. They seem to call the British-type succession (males above females) male-preference primogeniture. And Spain has used this system since Ferdinand VII (not counting interregnums), and also before 1713. Erwin 12:49 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I've always heard it refered to a patrolineal primogeniture. Where the eldest male is heir. Maybe that helps
What is the name of the type of succession where the monarch/noble divides up his estate equally to all his sons(or children)? This was done by the Franks and other Germanic tribes. Maybe this is considered a form of inheritance rather than succession?--Countakeshi 12:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
partible inheritance or salic patrimony perhaps. Maed 19:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Cleanup requested
I listed this page on Wikipedia:Cleanup because it repeats itself, dupes info from other pages, and generally just needs reorganisation. /blahedo (t) 07:59, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- I'm getting a bunch of errors with the top of this. Is it just me, or is the page faulty? The Jade Knight 22:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quasi-salic law
No mention of Quasi-salic inheritance, where succession is allowed through the female line, just thefemales themselves do not inherit, but the sons of females can. - Matthew238 22:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Saudi Arabia
is there an article about Saudi Arabia's succession ? --mo-- (Talk | #info | 
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Go first to read agnatic seniority. It describes in general terms what happens in saudi Arabia. And if you have more information to write, go start something like Order of succession of the kingdom of Saudi Arabia Shilkanni 01:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- To conform with the others, it should be line of succession to the Saudi Arabian throne. Incidentally, I don't know anything about the lines of succession in Thailand and Lesotho... help? —Nightstallion (?) 21:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Given that there is no line of succession, but merely a designated crown prince and a process by which a crown prince is to be designated, shouldn't this article be at something like Succession to the throne of Saudi Arabia? (I will admit to strongly disliking the adjectival format that seems to dominate these articles). john k 01:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] name change
In June, User:Maed moved this from Order of succession to succession order. This seems just plain wrong. None of the article text, or the other articles in the series, has been changed in line. I suggest moving it back. jnestorius(talk) 22:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- I've changed it. The first move was undiscussed. Charles 02:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Missing articles
Off the top of my hat: Line of succession to the Nepalese Throne, Line of succession to the Lesotho Throne, Line of succession to the Bahraini Throne, Line of succession to the Kuwaiti Throne, Line of succession to the Moroccan Throne, Line of succession to the Bhutanese Throne, Line of succession to the Brunei Throne, Line of succession to the Omani Throne, Line of succession to the Qatari Throne. While in Cambodia the successor is chosen from among those of royal blood by the Throne Council, we still might want to link to a page explaining this; the same goes for Andorra's co-principal system. —Nightstallion (?) 18:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- The title should not necessarily be "line of succession" for the ones that don't have a line of succession. Royal succession in Cambodia might be a better title, for instance. Personally, I think it would be better to insure that we have articles on succession laws, and to discuss them in a historical context, than to worry too much about the actual order of succession. john k 03:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I just want to have content on Wikipedia about the succession laws of all monarchies. —Nightstallion (?) 17:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. I'd add that I'd like to see articles on succession laws in former monarchies, and on older succession laws in current monarchies. Denmark, for instance, has had a series of them - elective until the reign of Frederik III (1648-1670), then Semi-Salic until his male line died out in 1863, then Salic for 90 years, and now male-preference primogeniture. The current article more or less only deals with the current succession rules. I'd also like to see wikipedia articles about house laws more generally. Getting articles on succession laws in all current monarchies is a good start, certainly. john k 02:51, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I just want to have content on Wikipedia about the succession laws of all monarchies. —Nightstallion (?) 17:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merger proposal deleted
Although proposed for merger, no case has been provided for merger. It is clear upon reading these articles that there are significant differences – each article addresses a topic which warrants discussion independently. If you feel strongly, please follow proposed mergers and provide a logical proposal for merger. Until then, the merger proposal is deleted. Skål Williamborg (Bill) 23:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge from Hereditary succession models
Hereditary succession models is mostly redundant with this article but has some nice discussion of the hereditary rules. I propose to merge the other article here and redirect. --Selket Talk 19:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Merge. I created that article (ok, the former Succession laws that was moved to Hereditary succession models) and also the images there. I think it would be the best, per Occam's Razor. --Neigel von Teighen 08:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
