Talk:Orb (paranormal)

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Contents 1 Removed external link 1.1 Cleanup 2 To Do 3 Ball Lightning 4 Colours 5 Balls of Energy?

[edit] Removed external link

I corrected some spelling errors, but I also had to to remove the external link "*Butterfly Turin Berlin A/R" since it led to a 404 - please re-add it after it has been brought back up Dr.Falko - 18:14, 4 Mar 2007 (UTC)

ed - actually, I just realized that this leaves this article with only skeptical links - not very neutral. Addition of other links supporting the paranormal hypothesis would probably be needed...

[edit] Cleanup

Just did a massive cleanup of this talk page, it was a mess. Nothing was altered except the formatting, signatures were added and those tacky page-breaks removed and replaced with tiered ::'ing. 'nuff said. Jachin 04:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To Do

I will get round to explaining some of the terms I've used in the pictures descriptions, coma, chromatic aberration etc. Or linking them to Wikipedia references (or doing both!). --Llamnuds 19:06, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ball Lightning

Am I the only person to have encountered an orb, first with the naked eye? I would have been one of the first people to believe that photographic orbs are mainly caused by dust or water. However, I first encountered an orb (size of a baseball, blue in color) during a summer night electrical storm at home, with my naked eye. I was so astonished, curious as to what I saw, that's what sparked my curiosity, not the transparent entity usually seen in a photograph. Furthermore, orbs are not the only phenonema seen in photographs. I've seen one photograph, indoors, with what appeared to be snowflaked-shaped orbs, and one photograph of a fully 3D orb, floating in the air with a reflection of a nearby surface. I don't dispute your opinion or findings, but there's definitely a mystery to them, and something I wish I had the answers to. --Larry G 12:39, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It sounds like you saw ball lightning, a rare and unusual event in itself.

Something that most people don't see in a lifetime.

But I don't believe ball lightning is related to the orbs that most people associate with the paranormal.

The snowflake and 3d orbs sound fascinating.

Llamnuds 18:24, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

huh, i found this page by accident and i suprised that 'orbs' are only in photography. I sometimes see orbs with my naked eye. What this mean?

Do not confuse 'orbs' with those motes one sees in the liquid upon the lense of their eye, all of us get that. Looking up at a pure azure blue sky is the best way to bring the retina into more focus on those than the surroundings if you want to examine that inherent side effect of sight further. Jachin 04:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Me too, it was a while ago but the experience has stayed with me. Late one night I was watching TV in the dark and a ball of golden/silver light about 10cm across appeared just above the TV I did the normal thing? - froze and then did a double take; blinked to make sure I wasn't seeing things, checked I was still awake and just looked at it taking it in. It wasn't transparent or definately solid (more like liquid mercury - but with movement and light)and was glowing gently. I decided to share the experience with my boyfriend sleeping next to me, so I looked away for a second to reach out to him and it went. I've spent most of the evening trying to find someone else who actually saw one that wasn't in a photo!

Has anyone else had a similar experience? I heard from someone there is a theory they are caused by static? I'd be interested if there are any good links or chats to join....

A large one off ball that floats like this could have been Ball lightning. However, multiple orbs seen with ones naked eyes could be a number of things, either something physiological, i.e. something in your eyes or brain that causes you to see these orbs. Or perhaps something psychological, i.e. it's generated by your mind, probably unconsciously. Whether this needs treatment in any way shape of form I’m not qualified to say, but I’d see an optician if it were me. There are numerous paranormal investigation groups that are spiritualists and I’m sure they’d supply you with alternative reasons why you see these orbs. Try Googling for Kent Paranormal Group.

--Llamnuds 00:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

I have actually seen an orb in my living room. I was about thirteen, and remember vividly listening to War Pig by Black Sabbath. When all of a sudden I saw a bright ball of light thravel into the living room, and just as I noticed it the ball it dissapeard behind a rocking chair that was ajacent to me in our living room. If anyone has any idea about wht I saw please contact me at somavibes@yahoo.com

I saw one with a naked eye, too. And fancy thing was it was in front of a TV as well (it wasn't on). I don't believe any of these pictures, but I wasn't the only one who saw the orb. It was blue, and the size of a softball. And it was there for about 2 seconds before it kind of exploded into a flash of light, like a camera flash. Could it be ball lightning? I'm a little too skeptical to believe in ghost stuff.

209.166.75.105 09:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

No offence intended, but this is a discussion page for the article. Please try and keep it to valid discussions rather than sharing personal experiences with focal clarity impartiality or visual witnessing of 'orbs'. Further, please sign your comments with ~~~~ and use : to indent your post to fit the threat portion you're responding to. I've cleaned this up as best as possible. Jachin 04:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colours

it's oddly untraditional that in this article the colours mentioned are red for female and blue for male. In all classical literature and culture, it's always the other way around: blue for girls/heaven, red for boys/earth. For example, Mars, god of war, has red associated with him.NCartmell 20:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I was wrapped in a blue blanket. My sister in a pink one.  :) Jachin 04:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Balls of Energy?

I would like to point out that this article says nothing about the theory that orbs are simply balls of energy located everywhere.

(It has been suggested that they can even form from electrical outlets

and such) They aren't dust (the real ones anyway), and they aren't paranormal, but they may be USED by a spirit or entity to help manifest. This rationale seems a little more valid than the theory that an orb is an entity itself, since they can be captured anywhere, and under non-paranormal circumstances...What do you think?

The Great Know-it-all 13:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No. They are all dust or some other small piece of inanimate matter, all of them, always. No exceptions. If you see an "orb" in a picture it is because of a speck of something illuminated by a light source. You didn't see one respond to your voice, you didn't see one try to communicate with you. You have been standing outside talking to NOTHING and then you photograph the same NOTHING and post on the internet about it. -66.226.105.98 07:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

User 66.226.105.98 is unfortunately correct on this one guys, it's been debunked, demystified and it's totally flogging the dead horse now. Generally people who post photos of 'orbs' are those who wish they had some proof of the paranormal and will grasp at straws. There's many oddities out there as far as orb photos, some even have squiggly faces in them or what not, but none are even vaguely believable as 'paranormal entities'.

Even if that WERE the case, and it were the remnants of energy of a human being, surely the combined energies of the 'soul', 'spirit', or the eletricity and / or pure energy stored within a human corpse depending on your take on things would amount to more than a sub 1mm fleck on a digital camera? But, if you want to think we turn into little glowing dots when we die, more power too you. Jachin 04:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Spiritual orbs? Yes. They happen. It's inexplicable, especially when they carry the spirits or faces of loved ones passed, but it does indeed happen. There is no text book or great professor who can explain these happenings. The why's and how's of orbs? I believe there are different types/forms of orbs. I can also understand how orbs in photographs can be nothing but dust, but what about an orb seen with the naked eye, in the middle of a room that does show the face of a loved one that seems to try to communicate with you? Anything is possible...there is so much out there that we just are not able to understand because we are only human and our brain only lets us go so far. We are but specks in a great universe where so many other things happen that we could never imagine with our simple human minds. Never say never...