User talk:Optigan13
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[edit] Warnings
[edit] February 2007
[edit] Bubba the Love Sponge Related Vandalism
Please do not add unhelpful and non-constructive information to Wikipedia, as you did to Bubba the Love Sponge. Your edits could be considered vandalism, and they have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.Stern Fan sites belong under Howard Stern 22 February 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.177.164.244 (talk) 23:53, 22 February 2007
- This was actually me trying to settle a dispute over which Fan sites are involved. It was not in fact vandalsim, but rather removal of disputed information in order to try to reach a settlement, or to at least avoid vandalism.(Optigan13 04:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
==Fan site edit warring==
This article and several other stern related ones appear to be going through edit wars between Stern Fan Network, bubbathelovesponge.net and howardshrine.net. I have already reverted the info before, back to where SFN is the only fan site involved in the state of the bubba speech, and is the Official Fan site. In order to avoid having to do this over and over again and constantly reverting, would there be an amicable way to include both of these sites in the article? As of this writing I have added both links, with their site name mentioned in the description, with neither having the official wording, and removed the State of the Bubba mention from the frequent bits. From everything I have heard and read it appears that the .net sites are not condoned or involved in any way in the speech, or have any official connection, which is why I reverted the article to reflect that, but I would prefer to talk out this dispute than to do edit wars and protection/semi-protection of the page. If someone could please provide some verifiable source that states which fan sites are officially involved please point it out, and by verifiable I do not mean either of the fan sites themselves.(Optigan13 07:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC))
- The official site is .net there are no others. Howard stern fan sites should be put under that category and do not belong here.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.213.209.31 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- If that is the case, then why do you revert to a version that included Mutt from Stern Fan Network as one of the two mention mentioned in the State of the Bubba Address? Although Mutt is part of the Super Fan Round table on the network, he is also well known as the Stern Fan Network owner and operator. The inclusion of the .net link without a mention of Mutt's affiliation appears to favor one site over the other and violate WP:NPOV. Myself as well as other editors have cited the concern that Bubba wants nothing to do with the .net site, and as such is not valid for inclusion in the State of the Bubba Speech. Also Stern Fan Network does include a forum for discussion of Bubba The Love Sponge, this combined with Mutt's inclusion on the State of the Bubba Speech does carry at least enough importance for the viewpoint to be considered at least part of a significant minority, if not the majority. (Optigan13 03:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
– Talk:Bubba the Love Sponge as of 03:55, 24 February 2007
[edit] Continued Bubba the Love Sponge Related Vandalism
Please stop. If you continue to violate WP:NPOV delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Bubba the Love Sponge, you will be blocked for vandalism.
Stop trying to justify whether or not a Howard Stern site belongs here. It does not.The Stern Fan Network is already posted under Howard Stern where it belongs. It is under the correct topic of Howard Stern and does not belong here. Please do not spam on this section or the page or you will be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.177.164.244 (talk) 14:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC).
- Leaving Bubba page and Bubba talk page alone for now, since IP users appear to own the article, wasn't trying to disrupt that article. I did not edit or delete any talk page comments aside from replacing mine which were blanked and added response and unsigned mark from ip user. Was not in any way trying to promote either site, but trying to squash fan site edit warring on wikipedia and seek clarification on which should be included. Stern and Bubba related Fan Sites appear to hate each other, and cause confusion and disruption on wikipedia. I'll just keep reverting on other pages on my watchlist and let the poorly worded line remain. User who cited me above comes from IP which appears to have replaced fan site's url on it's wiki entry to an obviously incorrect link, and whose only contributions so far appears to have been reverting the disputed text and links in question, blanking my talk page text, citing me, and either by accident or purpose, vandalising the fan site's wiki. So it is difficult to consider, but I am trying to assume that these are purely good faith corrections that just look bad from where I'm sitting. However if any editor can explain to me what the both sites are that are referred to on the disputed lines in question, or who Mutt is supposed to be by only reading that article I'd love to hear it. (Optigan13 22:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
