Talk:OpenSolaris
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Please, add link to a timeline of builds.
After starting this article. I realized the name should be OpenSolaris rather than Opensolaris.
All fixed....let's try and get a bit more detail in here. - Ché
Thanks Pmsyyz for the cleanup, I'm new to Wiki so maybe I can learn formatting from you - Ché
[edit] Linus' comments (Beware rant)
I find Linus' comments childish and stupid, why should he care about other kernels and say they should die? Linus' should stop wasting his time saying such childish comments and work on making Linux as good, currently Solaris works better than Linux for a lot of things. And my opinion is Linus' should grow up and stop behaving as a baby. Who agrees? 220.233.48.200 15:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Snooze! What do you care who agrees when you didn't even have the class to create an account or log in to post your rant? In fact why do you care about who agrees with you? Who are you to say that Linus is wasting his time by expressing his personal opinion in response to some question that was posed to him? In fact why aren't you railing against the person who requested Linus' opinion on the subject? Linus' time is his own to waste but the person who posed the question to him was arguably wasting Linus' time. (Courtesy would demand that Linus posted some response to the question even if it was to express some desire not to be drawn into some flamewar). Personally I think you've wasted your time by posting this rant to the discussion page. However it's your time to waste. I've wasted my time on this response ... and that's my time to waste. Seeing a pattern here? JimD 19:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- BTW: You clearly don't understand Linus' sense of humor or you were deliberately picking a fight. The comment about "active competition" and hoping "they die" is clearly Linus' being facetious. I've heard him talk about similar things in person on a number of occasions and I can almost see the smirk and hear his tone of voice when I read that line. This is just like his comments about "world domination" a decade ago. He jokes about such things to mock the assumptions people make about his agenda. (Linux is getting popular so Linus must be thinking of world domination; Sun is opening the sources to Solaris so Linus must consider them to be competition that must be crushed as he rolls towards world domination ... etc). JimD
- Actually, I don't find Linus' comments appropriate here either. It's not real critism, it's just trolling at best. It doesn't belong on Wikipedia unless they can be made NPOV-ish. Mike 10:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- As I commented last year (see below) I agree. I think they were the result of a journalist trolling. If, as JimD suggests, they are merely a humorous response to that trolling then I would be pleased to see them removed Webmink 13:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Am not so sure Linus was being facetious. He probably does hope that opensolaris falls throught the crack and become a hobby project for a few greying hackers. The key, though, is that he is one of the authorities on making open-source software that grows beyond wild expectations, and as such his opinion does bear relevance to opensolaris. His comment about driver issues was spot-on. Christopher Mahan 15:41, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
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He was CLEARLY being humourous. In fact, i could bet 100000$ that after Linux made that comment, he probably chuckled. Granted, it's not "real" criticism, but it is indeed valid enough, as it actually DOES represent what most people think the negative aspects of opensolaris are. Liquidtenmillion 23:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CAB
What will the role of the CAB be? The article doesn't mention this. Lupin 16:42, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- The first thing the CAB will do is create a Charter and Governance for itself, so your question really can't be answered until it has met for the first time. --Webmink 10:10, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] STUB
Does anyone really think this article should be stubbed, seriously there's not much we can say about OpenSolaris until we have the code, I think what is here is a fair and informative representation of the current situation.
- I agree. I'm actually a CAB member and will be doing my best to keep the page up to date; right now I think there is little that could be added and hence it is not a stub. --Webmink 01:47, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
I'm not sure the Torvalds comments are very helpful here, especially without a citation. --Webmink 12:30, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Citations have been added. Christopher Mahan 22:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Does this sound like PR?
Does anyone else think that the article reads like it was written by Sun simply for PR purposes? I'm not saying it actually was, but it seems a bit filled with marketing-oriented jargon and the like, i.e. "The community's core values -- openness, inclusiveness, respect, honesty, quality, and independence -- are reflected in how the community and its leaders behave and help guide the community as it evolves the technology." -anonymous
- Yes very much so.
- Yes. It should be overhauled. The language is too gushy. One big question I have is can you have a working, bootable, useable version without using any components released under a non-CDDL license (i.e. the OpenSolaris Binary License, which is not F/OSS)? If not, the article should mention this. --NightMonkey 12:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed. And as NightMonkey added, there is a dependency to Solaris Express Community Release, which may contain proprietary code. Christopher Mahan 16:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox
I've edited a lot of things out of the new infobox that were erroneously copied from the Solaris article -- including the screenshot, since strictly speaking it's not of OpenSolaris, but of Solaris 10. (There's no such thing as "Open Solaris 10"). I also removed "Latest stable release" since what was there were the dates for Solaris 10, but also because I'm not sure what constitutes a stable release date / version number for the OpenSolaris project.
[edit] On Portal:Free software, OpenSolaris is currently the selected article
(2007-02-28) Just to let you know. The purpose of selecting an article is both to point readers to the article and to highlight it to potential contributors. I'm hoping this will attract some contributors to this important article. It will remain on the portal for a week or so. The previous selected article was CUPS. Gronky 15:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
