Talk:Open-mid front rounded vowel
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Is RP/australian 'fern' and 'burn' the vowel œ? It's certainly close to ö in german.
- Close, the vowel in 'fern' is [ɜ], which is very similar to [œ], but central rather than front, and unrounded rather than rounded. Nohat 05:25, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
In The Phonology of Norwegian by Gjert Kristoffersen the word løse is transcribed as ['lø:sə], and as far as I know it would rhyme with høne since I'm not aware of any lowering of /ø:/ before /n/. Could someone who actually speaks (Eastern) Norwegian confirm whether the vowels in these two words are different or not?
Also, as far as I can tell from Sprog & lyd: Elementær dansk fonetik by Steffen Heger, the Danish example is also an [ø]. Similar to most Swedish dialects, [œ] seems to be an allophone of /ø:/ that is occurs before /r/.
Peter Isotalo 22:10, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
- I speak with a dialect that I believe is close to the "standard" Norwegian bokmål dialect, and I pronounce the ø in løse and the ø in høne exactly the same. --Quadduc 22:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Why exactly do [ø] and [œ] seem to sound like American English r. They are articulated in two totally different ways. "R" is a rhotacized schwa, whereas the other two are rounded front vowels. Linguofreak 21:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dutch deur
The example from Dutch 'deur' sounds like ø to me, not œ.
I just removed it. I think the sound sample of 'œ' on the page is wrong. It sounds like 'ø'.
Babelut 16:49, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
