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can we get proper maps? somthing for "northern" ontario, then something seprate for "southern" ontario? the current map is crowded, and... well, ugly. Pellaken 12:52, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Sorry about that, it's temporary. Earl Andrew 21:21, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
-- I added EDT (UTC -4) to the time zones. Is that inconsistent? --Big_Iron 10:59, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Yes. Reference to UTC -4 removed. Snickerdo 05:49, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
-- If u look at the bottom part of ontario with your head tilted to the left (west :P) it looks like an elephant hamilton being the armpit :/
Yes, and who would like to live in Owen Sound!
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A couple of questions regarding the Demographics section:
In the summary of Ontario's demographic breakdown, "Native American" is listed as an ethnic group. Is this term to be understood as being synonymous with First Nations?
Also, might there be a more appropriate term than "Latino American"? It sounds to my ears like "Latino, and also American (in the sense of U.S.A.)." There must be better options, such as dropping the "o" to make it read "Latin American" which would emphasize people in this group being "of the Americas" (to include Canada, Guatemala, the U.S.A., etc.). Alternatively, have the terms "Latino Canadian" or "Hispanic Canadian" achieved any currency? Those seem yet more accurate.
Being neither Native nor Latino nor Canadian, I've refrained from editing the article so as to avoid stepping on toes, but don't there exist agreed-upon, less misleading/offensive terms for the many Canadian demographic groups? Joshers 08:14, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have changed "Native American" to "Aboriginal", and "Latino American" to "Latin-American". Ground Zero | t 21:34, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The New Ontario
I think a divided Ontario is a good idea. What does anyone else think? Dhastings 03:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- First of all, if Ontario was to be divided, the capital of the Eastern Ontario province would be Ottawa, not Kingston. 60% of everyone in the East lives in Ottawa. Ottawa has 9 times the population of Kingston. Why did you think of Kingston? And also, Hastings, Prince Edward and Lennox-Addington counties are almost always considered Central Ontario.
- To define Eastern Ontario, draw a line segment heading north, 90 degrees from the easternmost point on Amherst Island, that starts at the US border and continues straight until Sharbot Lake, at which point it changes direction so that is moves 45 degrees (in the northwestern direction) until reaching the Ottawa River. The reason why the line is usually bent in a northwestern direction is so that the line can pass west of Pembroke. There. Everything east of that line within Ontario is Eastern Ontario.
- Also, Ontario is not likely to be split up. The only parts of Ontario that are even remotely likely to become seperate provinces are Northern Ontario and perhaps Ottawa (some want a seperate national capital region like the US). Although some have proposed that Toronto become a province, such an idea is usually proposed in a tongue-in-cheek manner. But there is near-zero support for a the Southwest or Central Ontario to form seperate provinces. Also, to refer to the part of Ontario just northwest of Toronto as "Western Ontario" is misleading, as Thunder Bay (which is in Ontario, as I'm sure you know) is over 700 km west of Owen Sound (Thunder Bay is even further west than Windsor). The Ontario-Manitoba Border is much, much, much more west than the "western" area labelled on that map. --216.106.110.239 00:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] External Links
The external link about Ghost towns in Ontario does not work for me. I get a banned from site message. Attempting to access it through various proxys did not help either. This link was added in May 2005 and the same person 69.159.1.218 has added this link to numerous (mostly Canadian) other pages. I think we should delete it, but... Since it has also been added to all those other pages: Should we clean them all up? Dave 15:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for adding the classifieds link guys. I sold my car there a while ago but lost the address. Big help. Thank you.
[edit] Official Language
Can someone please link a document that shows Ontario's official language, i wasn't even aware we had one.
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- I think saying that french has some legal status is an understatement. I think Ontario is only english (as Newfoundland is bilingual (officially)), there is sill alot of regfions that are french, and english, so maybe a rephrase? paat 20:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
True, while there are many heavy francophone areas in Ontario, just because the majority of citizens speak french, it does not give it any additional legal status, just like there are anglophone communities in Quebec, but Quebec's official language is still French only. but according to This there are no official languages, but english is the dominant. Also, its New Brunswick thats Bilingual, not Newfoundland
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- Oops i knew it was sumwhere in the maratimes. But i was just saying that stating that the french had just some legal status, wouldn't be what it should be (maybe just has a legal status. I know ottawa is now bilangual, and its starting to be sumthing in other cities too, little and a little more paat 01:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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hmm, I was under the impression that Ottawa is only bilingual because it is the capital of a bilingual nation. but continuing on, if we just wrote French has legal status, it would confuse many people who would mistake legal with official. plus, according to the link I posted above, there is no official language and English is de facto. if that is true than nothing should be written under official language.
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- Ottawa is bilingual also because of its proximity to Gatineau and having francophones being 1/5th-1/4 of the population.Dan Carkner 16:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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Ontario is not an officially bilingual province. The only bilingual province is New Brunswick (see the Constitution of 1982). For more information on the legal status of French in Ontario, see the 1986 French Language Services Act and the summary site. Pour plusier information, regardez le Loi sur les services en français de Ontario (1986) et l'attendant site d'explication. Cleduc 21:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] John Darnielle & Trivia
I removed the reference to John Darnielle and the Trivia section as it is nn.--J2000ca 23:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
See http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ca_on_fr.html http://www.hrma-agrh.gc.ca/ollo/aud-ver/province_e.asp http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/archives/articles/2005/anniversary_ontario_anniversaire_e.htm http://www.woodland-centre.on.ca/languages.html
[edit] New logo
Someone should probably update the provincial logo with the new one. — ceejayoz talk 18:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Land
It is stated in the introduction that "Ontario is the most populous and second-largest in area of Canada's ten provinces." However, further down the article in the grey box, Ontario is ranked as 5th overall in area. (B.C.'s article also claims 5th overall). If this holds true, Ontario would be third overall. I'm no statistician, so I wouldn't know how total area is calculated, but I do think either the introduction should be reworded, or the correct ranking be used in the box. Doing so would solve to maintain the article's integrity.--Petro 56 20:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC) Petro_56
[edit] Climate
hm, I don't know if sandbanks represents the climate of ontario, why not show some farmland? far more representative I think.. Dan Carkner 16:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ottawa-Montreal?
"Ottawa is the national capital, and being next to Montreal, it forms one of the largest metropolitan areas in Canada."
Perhaps this is supposed to refer to Ottawa as being next to Gatineau (which together forms the National Capital Region (a census recognized metropolitan area)? Ottawa is not next to Montreal, and the two cities certainly do not form a metropolitan area. Perhaps maybe this is in reference to its ranking in size? Either way, I think we should find a less ambiguous way of wording this. Gsmit011 20:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pauline Johnson
I've requested a peer review for this article. If you're interested in giving some feedback, click here. Thanks, Bobanny 00:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Francophonie
Why does the Ontario page display Francophonie?--J2000ca 03:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Removed navbox. --Qyd 21:09, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
I'm quite stunned at how this article doesn't cite its sources, I've spent about 2 hours citing the introduction and removing statements that I couldn't verify, to become an FA article, we must have in line citations, rather than a source for an entire 54 kilobyte (that needs workin' on too) article. Spookane 20:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ottawa CMA
It seems a little unfair that Gatineau is not included in the population figure for Ottawa's CMA. It includes 226,296 additional residents, most of whom live within a few kilometers from Ottawa. Although it is not part of Ontario, it makes Ottawa's metropolitan area seem about 25% smaller than it actually is. --70.81.251.32 03:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
