Talk:Ontario's Drive Clean
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When I read this page, I can hear a giant axe grinding. I've since edited it to leave it a little less one-sided, and to include other pertinent information. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ivandenisovitch (talk • contribs).
Obviously the status-quo with Drive Clean is not working. Only by pointing out the flaws in this program can we effect positive change. Drive Clean is a politically-motivated revenue-generating program, and is clearly not fulfilling the goals of Ontario with respect to reducing air pollution. It is also unfair to operators of older vehicles. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.112.51.10 (talk • contribs).
While you may be right, that discussion has NO PLACE on the Wikipedia. Please state ONLY the facts, and cite your sources. This article is ridiculously POV, and needs quite a bit of revision. --74.115.11.144 15:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
There were no less than 16 citations on this article, now there are 26. Enough "citation needed" please. The Drive Clean program subject is inherently political and controversial, different sides therefore should be (and are) expressed in the article, including Liberals, Conservatives, environmentalists, etc. It is not my fault that there remain few supporters of this program aside from those directly involved (Ontario's current government, mechanics, the oil industry). The alternative is to present a false concensus or sterility of this issue to readers (a situation that most certainly does not exist). There simply is not much positive to dig up about this program other than deliberately misleading stats and good intentions. 24.57.195.98 19:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] This article is horrible
When I look at this article I see a one sided argument that has no place on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a place for personal opinion it is a place for information. Some of the information about the flaws is still important but a sentence like the program gives people a false sense of security is completely unnecessary as it is a personal opinion. Instead of vandalizing Wikipedia improvements need to be made.
Oh really? go stand behind a car sporting a Drive Clean "pass" windshield sticker, right near the tail pipe, now breathe in deeply... feel sick? Now you may understand that there is no such thing as "drive clean", (unless it is a pure electric car) so why did the government name it that? To give people a false sense of security, not only the name is misleading the public, but the logo has a car with a halo on it. The fact is even tuned-up cars pollute and are the major cause of urban smog. Drive clean is only reducing this by about 1%. So much for the halo. Please read some of the many references before you criticize this article. I assure you that the more you inform yourself on the issue and the science, the less biased you will find this article to be. 24.57.195.98 00:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
