Talk:One sheet (film)

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[edit] Merge?

This article should be incorporated (and redirect) into the main movie poster article, as opposed to it's own page. The movie poster page needs help desperately. Please move this back to that page. -Jca2112 23:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

OPPOSE - I created the article because a one sheet is a stand alone item mentioned when discussing films & memoribilia and after finding that the article one sheet details an item of musical reference not related to it. Within the context of discussing film, "one sheet" can be considered specialized language. It is the preferred term for "movie posters" and its use denotes someone familiar to these worlds (ie, the general public says "film poster" while industry types, hangerons and like are more likely to say "one sheet.")

There is a link back to the movie poster page and I agree it needs more work. But to incorporate it into that page means should someone find a reference to "one sheets" they must then read through that entire article just to come to this definition. It seems from what I've read, the mark of a good wiki article is that the reader is able to quickly arrive at most concise version of the information they seek. Both it and this one need a category tag for "Well Known Movie Poster Artists" or the like RoyBatty42 00:41, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Agree with the need to explain what a "one sheet" is, but disagree with the idea that spinning off this particular "industry term" into it's own article will somehow make for more "concise" information. I'm proposing you improve the main article rather than creating a result of two lesser/smaller/incomplete articles. For example, if you were to create a "Movie Poster Artist" category (as you suggested) and put both of these articles into that category, that would make the need to merge the two pages even more apparent. A movie poster designer creates theatrical key art (movie poster) art, which is then presented in different formats: one-sheets, two-sheets, outdoor billboards, trade ads, etc. Since the category would be "Movie Poster Artists", not "One Sheet Artists", does that term not need to be more fully explained within movie poster? From Wikipedia:Duplicate_articles:

There are several good reasons to merge a page:

• There are two or more pages on exactly the same subject.
• There are two or more pages on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there does not need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability.
• If a page is very short and cannot or should not be expanded terribly much, it often makes sense to merge it with a page on a broader topic.
• If a short article requires the background material or context from a broader article in order for readers to understand it.

I believe these reasons can apply. A merger proposal may be in order to see if anyone else objects/agrees/etc. -Jca2112 01:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

This is no different than with LP and different music albums, it denotes a certain thing within a larger group. As far as being inconcise, I'm not purposing giving all the other sizes their own articles (although they should have redirects back to the movie poster one). But "one sheet" is a term a person can run across in the course of reading an outside source and it would be nice if when they try to quickly reach an understanding of it they don't have to read about the entire history of film posters to do it. It's also a specialized American term as the whole "# sheet" classification is. RoyBatty42 17:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

And to follow your own example, does the Wikipedia entry for LP (in this context) not point to the album entry for the bulk of it's definition? -Jca2112 07:25, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

They also wouldn't have to read through the entire article to reach information on one sheets. It would all be within the first paragraph of the article. I think we should have a disambiguation from One Sheet link to the movie poster page with a short insert at the top about how one sheet is another name for it. Ah, and I just found out that the main one sheet page does not even have a disambig link to this one, so no one can even reach it without first knowing it was there. Im not going to add one because it looks like this page wont be here anymore anyways.Lebroyl 17:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

All that's needed is for the One sheet article to have a "for film posters, see" at the top of the article, which solves RoyBatty42's problem. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the other one sheet article, it should probably be deleted and merged into some other music publicity article just as one sheet (film) should be merged into movie poster. It seems the film usage of the term is more common than the music usage as given in the article. I would guess people are more likely to be searching Wikipedia for information about movie poster "one sheets" versus music "one sheets". -Jca2112 21:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)