User talk:Omerks

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[edit] Helpme request

An editor placed a notability tag for Ezginin Gunlugu which I created today. This group is quite popular in Turkey not less than any other in the category Turkish musical groups. What is the reason that only this group gets that notability tag and what would be the best way to remove it? I don't want this entry to be deleted.

The best way to deal with notability issues is to supply some published, third-party sources about the band, such as magazine articles and album reviews. The same should be done for the other articles in that category that don't have independent sources, but it just so happens that someone came across this one, probably because it is a new article. —Centrx→talk • 03:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Omerks. Centrx has given you a good explanation on establishing notability. If you still have questions about notability, take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines for notability. I will leave the notability tag off of Ezginin Gunlugu for a few days so that you can provide the appropriate references.Jay†Litman 12:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Algebraic integer

The articles Integrality, Integral closure, and Algebraic integer duplicate a good deal of information from one another. I have proposed that they be merged. The text of Integrality, which I wrote, covers the most general case (at least for commutative rings), so I think something along the lines of that text should be the part that says general stuff like, "The sum and product of two algebraic integers is again an algebraic integer," and so on. The texts from the other two generally cover the special case of algebraic numbers integral over Z, and contain useful information about that special case. What is your opinion about this? Joeldl 22:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion they should remain seperate. The property of being algebraic is something easier to grasp than the property of being integral. One should see the rational numbers before dealing with field of fractions. One may give the example of algebraic integers in the article Integrality like the example of rational numbers in field of fractions.OmerKs 02:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
All right. Actually, I've reread Integral closure and it seems to deal with integral domains in general. Certainly, that case isn't any easier than commutative rings, at least for the definitions, so maybe we should just merge Integral closure into Integrality. We should probably give the example of the algebraic integers in Integrality and in Algebraic integer allude to the fact that that's a special case of what's covered at Integrality. Another option would be to do essentially that, but have the general discussion of integrality on the page Algebraic integer in a separate section. Eventually, though, you need to talk about rings if you're going to get anywhere, even in the number theory case, so the theorems from the general case, such as the going-up theorem, become necessary. Joeldl 01:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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